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On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o> wrote: |
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> On 16 March 2015 at 21:54, Юра Цимбалов <yura.tsts@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>>> That would be great, but it depends on getting newer mpv stable, while |
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>>> (s)mplayer2 is dead and broken right now. |
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>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=mplayer2&list_id=2703540 |
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>> Why it's broken? |
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> As stated in my original message: See bugs 452484, 485994, 512082, 519212. |
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Obviously if software has serious issues it needs to be treecleaned, |
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but I seem to recall this package coming up in the whole ffmpeg |
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defaults discussion. |
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As I recall libav is now the default, and the argument was that users |
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should just use mplayer2 and such for compatibility. Now it sounds |
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like stable users don't have that option, at least for a time. |
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This won't affect established users since I suspect 95% of them never |
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switched away from ffmpeg in the first place and if they did they'll |
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just start mixing keywords, but I imagine that this sort of thing will |
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be confusing at best for a new user. If mplayer is the first package |
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they install they'll probably get told to fix their USE flags and be |
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fine. If they first install something else that works with libav I |
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imagine things will get more confusing when they go to install |
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something like mplayer. |
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I'm not saying that we need to keep mplayer2 around. I'm just saying |
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that we should be thinking about whether stuff like this makes the |
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Gentoo learning curve unnecessarily steep and what can be done to |
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mitigate it. I'd really love it if we could eventually get some kind |
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of automated CI testing that just starts with a stage3 and all |
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defaults and tries to emerge a few key packages (kde on the kde |
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profile, gnome on the gnome profile, maybe xfce and a browser on the |
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default profile - the goal is to just pull in a bunch of very |
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common/generic stuff). I occasionally do this in a chroot and on |
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occasion I'm a bit surprised by the results, but I haven't done this |
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too recently. |
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Rich |
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