Re: [gentoo-dev] Programming advice wanted?

[Marc Giger]

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 23:24:25 +0200
Mart Raudsepp <leio@××××××××.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 22:58, Tom Wesley wrote:
> > This discussion seems to be leading towards the use of scripting (?)
> > languages like Python and Perl, and more mentions of Python than
> > anything else.  I have to say that I like the idea of this, least of
> > all because it will give me some ability to comment on portage and
> > other Gentoo specifics. I like this idea, as for some reason it
> > sounds less of a large slope to climb.  If/when I get there, what
> > are the GTK+2 and QT bindings like for Python?  I'm mainly concerned
> > about the speed and how similar it is to using C/C++ - it's quite
> > probable that I'll want to learn either eventually.
>
> GTK+-2.x Python bindings (PyGTK[1][2]) and Qt 3.x Python bindings
> (PyQT[3]) mostly just wrap around the C (for gtk+) and C++ (for Qt)
> library with an extension, thus actually the speed loss isn't too
> signifact. For example in the world of wxWidgets[4] many people first
> write the application in wxPython[5] first as the GUI can be written
> quickly, easilly changed, no need to waste time on compiling, etc.
> Often it stays in python too. The skeletal is done in python so to
> say.
>
> The API function names are kept as close as possible to the C/C++
> couterpart so later doing it directly in C/C++ shouldn't be too hard
> once you have the basics and have memorized the function names. Less
> often need to look into the reference you keep under your pillow ;)
> Often there are multiple functions in python for one function in
> C/C++, that's because python doesn't know about function overloading.
>
> Personally I started with BASIC, then Pascal, then took on C and C++.
> And the more high-level the more I like it, thus I don't do low-level
> C coding, only when I have to :P
> Python is a very good language with which to start serious
> programming. No need to worry about declaring variables,

And that's what I dislike (am I the only one?) in script languages.
(Mostly) you don't know the actual content of the variables. Is it a
string? An Integer? An object reference? (Yeah I know there are
possibilities to find it out). Why to find out such things if you could
declare it in "right" languages?

> you learn doing identation
> right due to the language, you can program interactively, you have the
> help system right there build in, and so on.
>
> References:
> 1. http://www.daa.com.au/~james/pygtk/
> 2. http://www.pygtk.org/
> 3. http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/
> 4. http://www.wxwidgets.org/
> 5. http://www.wxpython.org/
>
> --
> With regards,
> Mart Raudsepp
>
> Project manager of wxMUD
> E-mail:	leio@××××××××.net
> http://wxmud.sourceforge.net/
>
>
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