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On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 19:11 +0100, Peter Weller wrote: |
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> On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 19:36 +0200, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: |
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> > Le dimanche 20 avril 2008 à 20:25 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev a écrit : |
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> > > On 4/20/08, Gilles Dartiguelongue <eva@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > > for what it's worth, as a gnome dev I didn't see any convincing |
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> > > > arguments as to why it should be renamed. Gnome makes things optional |
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> > > > for other to reuse (like xfce) but afaik no other "keyring" like |
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> > > > programs are optional deps of another package in portage. Let's not cast |
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> > > > a simple change into breakage for users already using it (even in |
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> > > > stable, and yes I'm lazy :D). |
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> > > |
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> > > Lazy is the word. |
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> > > I cannot argue with this one, I just know that it won't be the gnome |
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> > > herd who do the work when the time come to fix this (resolve |
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> > > conflict). |
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> > > The gnome herd will re-introduce the lazy ticket, and make other herd |
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> > > use yet another confusing USE flag. |
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> > > This is not the right way to maintain long term constants. |
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> > |
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> > failure, you tried to argue ;) |
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> > |
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> > > You asked for objections... You got some. |
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> > > |
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> > > You can leave this local USE flag, and stay with generic term. |
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> > > Or you can rename it when it goes global so it have proper name. |
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> > > You can also ignore this and force gnome onto all users. |
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> > |
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> > Seriously though, when I find stuff to fix, I try to fix it. I just |
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> > don't see anything to fix right now. |
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> There are currently three options in my mind: to rename the USE flag as |
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> 'gnome-keyring', to just globalize the 'keyring' USE flag as is, or to |
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> remove the USE flag completely. Each have a number of downs and ups: |
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> |
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> Renaming |
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> 1) We have to change 9 ebuilds to reflect the change |
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> 2) Almost all Gnome users will be affected in one way or another |
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> 3) Technically correct |
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> 4) Reduces chances of future collisions |
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> 5) More work for developers |
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> |
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> Keeping it as is |
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> 1) Less headache for Gnome users in the short term (but possibly |
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> more if we rename it in the future |
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> 2) Less work for me/Gnome herd |
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> 3) Technically incorrect |
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> 4) Could result in conflicts in the future |
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> |
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> Removing |
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> 1) Nice and simple. Just force all packages to compile with |
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> --gnome-keyring |
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> 2) A large number of users will probably start complaining about |
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> all their packages being compiled with gnome-keyring support |
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> 3) Xfce people will hate hate hate, I will be crucified. |
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> After consideration of the above, and consultation with the Gnome herd, |
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> I think that the best option would be to rename the USE flag to |
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> gnome-keyring. |
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> If anyone has any objections to *that*, pipe up before tomorrow evening. |
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All done. If anyone spots any missed packages/problems, feel free to fix |
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or poke me to fix it. |
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