Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: jsykari@×××××××××××××××.fi
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Spam (was Re: Hey SEXY)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 01:31:55
Message-Id: 87it0s2bae.fsf@cs191238.pp.htv.fi
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Spam (was Re: Hey SEXY) by Mark Bainter
1 Mark Bainter <mark-gt@×××××.org> writes:
2 > Alan [alan@×××××.org] wrote:
3 >> Or filter the list through spamassassin before it goes out to mailman (or
4 >> something like that).
5 >
6 > Close the list Filter the lists
7 > False Positives No Yes
8 > 100% effective Yes No
9 >
10 > Hrm...choice seems clear to me. Filtering spam on a
11 > mailing list is a bad idea. It's one thing for an
12 > individual user to decide an acceptable level of risk
13 > for false positives, it's quite another to choose that
14 > for an entire list. Just my two cents.
15
16 How about making a new list, gentoo-dev-spam, and sending the filtered
17 mail to that address? Those who want to avoid false positives can
18 freely subscribe to that list.
19
20 This might seem ridiculous but it's not as ridiculous as doing nothing
21 and letting the mailing list get cluttered by spam. How much spam is
22 enough to make the list closed? 10 messages per day? 100 per day?
23
24 Better even, put the address "gentoo-dev-spam@g.o" in the front
25 page of www.gentoo.org. That would further raise the signal/noise
26 ratio of gentoo-dev, which is now, IMHO, rather much plagued by
27 messages which would rather belong to gentoo-newbie or
28 gentoo-user. (Or forums.gentoo.org)
29
30 To be a bit more realistic, a bit more realistic solution is to close
31 the lists.
32
33 Distributing spam on the mailing lists is increasingly hurting the
34 gentoo community by hindering communication. To not close the mailing
35 lists would be a sign of weakness and inability to make
36 decisions. Personal mail filters should not - and could not - be the
37 solution, because not everybody has the possibility, resources or
38 willingness to install SpamAssassin or similar.
39
40 Antti, fed up with spam