Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

[Ferris McCormick]

On Sat, 23 May 2009 20:12:17 -0500
Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:

> Ferris McCormick wrote:
> >
> > If the 20MB is a real problem, I think the alternative is to have two
> > versions of the "minimal CD".  Otherwise it seems to me that Gentoo is
> > discriminating against people who cannot see the screen, and I would
> > consider that to be very tacky at best.
> >
> > Someone (rdalek1967) said the problem was an extra 2.5 hours time for
> > download over dialup.  If that is correct, we are looking at 12.5 hours
> > instead of 10 hours (about 25% increase, but 10 hours is a long time,
> > and I don't know that 12.5 hours is subjectively that much longer).
> >
> > So, to answer William's original question, one way or another we should
> > provide a minimal CD with the speech software on it in my opinion.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ferris
> >
> > --
> > Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@g.o>
> > Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Userrel, Trustees)
> >
>
> One problem I will mention but in most cases wouldn't matter.  Most
> dial-up ISPs have connect time limits.  AT&T for example is 12 hours, my
> current ISP is 10 but some are as little as 4 hours.  When that limit is
> reached, it disconnects.  This happens even if there is data flowing.
>
> If, this is a big if here, a person has one of these and cannot resume
> the download, this could become a issue even if they have a long connect
> time like AT&T.  I use Kget to download huge files or CDs since it has a
> resume feature.  However, are the tools on the CD, wget I guess, resumable?
>

wget claims it is: The example in the man page is
=======================
wget -c ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/ls-lR.Z

           If there is a file named ls-lR.Z in the current directory,
           Wget will assume that it is the first portion of the remote
           file, and will ask the server to continue the retrieval from
           an offset equal to the length of the local file.
========================

> I do think this is a good idea even if it is a separate CD to download.
> Also something to remember when making the stage tarballs I guess.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>

Regards,
Ferris
--
Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@g.o>
Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Userrel, Trustees)