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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Change policy about live ebuilds
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:23:13
Message-Id: 20101121212224.GA16400@Eternity.halls.manchester.ac.uk
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Change policy about live ebuilds by Ryan Hill
1 On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 01:30:15PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote:
2 > On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:05:44 +0000
3 > Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o> wrote:
4 >
5 > > > Isn't that the point? People should be discouraged in every way not to use
6 > > > live ebuilds. I'd add a third if we had one. :)
7 > > >
8 > > > But yes, if I had to pick only one I'd go with dropping keywords over
9 > > > package.mask. In fact it looks like I have some live ebuilds in the tree
10 > > > that do exactly that.
11 > > >
12 > > Actually not. Users are already familiar with the -9999 concept so there
13 > > is no point to add extra obstacles in their way. I am trying to find out
14 > > corner cases where double masking makes sense. Otherwise it makes no
15 > > sense to me. Actually the majority of users get confused when a package
16 > > is double masked. Just drop by forums etc and you will see :)
17 >
18 > Again, that's the point. If you can't figure out how to get around a
19 > double mask then you have no business installing live ebuilds.
20 >
21 > But this is getting off topic. If you want to change the policy to recommend
22 > dropping keywords rather than using package.mask then I support it.
23 > package.mask has the disadvantage that it's too easy to accidentally unmask
24 > live versions with >=. And nothing stops someone from doing both if they
25 > want.
26 >
27 >
28 > --
29 > fonts, gcc-porting, it makes no sense how it makes no sense
30 > toolchain, wxwidgets but i'll take it free anytime
31 > @ gentoo.org EFFD 380E 047A 4B51 D2BD C64F 8AA8 8346 F9A4 0662
32
33 If the majority of the devs ( at least of those who participate to this
34 thread ) is positive, then I will commit a patch to devmanual and
35 possibly migrate the cvs&svn sources pages into a single one.
36
37 --
38 Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
39 Gentoo Linux Developer
40 Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
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Replies

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Change policy about live ebuilds William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Change policy about live ebuilds Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o>