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On Thursday 20 October 2005 20:37, Donnie Berkholz wrote: |
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> I'd prefer that people don't come to depend on metabuilds at all. |
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OK, we can do this. |
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> See |
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> http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/porting_to_modular_x_howto.txt. |
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That file says there won't be any x11-related virtuals anymore. Are you sure |
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no package uses it in the sense of 'any X server' instead of 'any X client |
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libs+headers'? |
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> Couple of ideas here. |
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> 1) We do as you suggest, and make people emerge xorg-x11 |
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> 2) KDE could add a USE=X and dep X? ( xorg-server ) |
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(2) is bad for several reasons: |
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Firstly, as I said in my other replies, this would change the current meaning |
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of the X USE flag. The original meaning would stay without a flag. |
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Today it means 'enable support for clienside X11'. You want to make it mean |
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'install X11 server'. If I'm building a headless box without an X11 server, |
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but I do want to emerge KDE and run it over ssh -Y from another box, I need |
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two useflags to specify this. But even if we introduce a new USE flag |
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'Xserver', on by default where X is on by default, and used as you describe |
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above, the problems I describe below will remain. |
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Secondly, there can be more than one X11 server (kdrive, etc). Depending on |
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xorg-server is bad. If anything, we should introduce a virtual/x11-server. |
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Thirdly, it's a 'convenience dep': whether xorg-server is installed or not |
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won't affect the behavior of KDE in any way (given a working DISPLAY |
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setting). |
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Finally, it requires that extra change to (ideally) all X11 client apps. It's |
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not intuitive, and so easy to forget when writing new ebuilds. |
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> We will still install some fonts, but not all, and I'll note that in the |
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> metabuilds text. |
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Which ones? Selected how? I'm asking because I don't want to work too hard on |
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deciding which fonts KDE should depend on :-) |
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Dan Armak |
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