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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 07:54:45
Message-Id: pan$bef73$3c9e5ce6$7fe7ac36$52a94b66@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail by "Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com)"
1 Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com) posted on Sat, 23 May 2015 08:39:36 +0200
2 as excerpted:
3
4 > Some
5 > of the very large mailers today still holding on postfix usually have
6 > developed their own strongly modified and mostly („crapped") "version"
7 > of it (more or less giggling around GPL barriers here) - this is not
8 > THAT postfix anymore most people get with their linux distri. ß)
9
10 FWIW on those GPL barriers... and with the usual "no lawyer here"
11 disclaimer...
12
13 It's worth noting the difference between the GPL and the AGPL, the latter
14 of which considers usage of a server-based service to be distribution of
15 that service, thereby triggering the traditional GPL sources distribution
16 requirements.
17
18 The GPL, by contrast, normally applies only locally, making the company
19 doing the mods the only direct user, and they normally have access to the
20 sources already, since they're either making the mods or commissioning
21 them, themselves.
22
23 Thus it is that many cloud-based services can legally avoid the otherwise
24 restrictions of the GPL, because they are their own user and are not
25 considered to be distributing. But the AGPL, unlike the GPL, never
26 really developed a following of critical mass to create a self-sustaining
27 ecosystem.
28
29 So it isn't that these providers are giggling around the GPL
30 restrictions. Those restrictions simply don't apply to the license
31 chosen for the apps and libs they tend to use, and if they did, because
32 the AGPL never developed that strong an ecosystem, it's always reasonably
33 simple to simply go with a different "open source", or even "free
34 software" alternative.
35
36 --
37 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
38 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
39 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman