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From: "Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com)" <nd@××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 06:39:52
Message-Id: 773ADB89-E4A6-4FF3-9E4E-02C7AC5C68E8@syndicat.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail by "J. Roeleveld"
1 > Am 23.05.2015 um 08:18 schrieb J. Roeleveld <joost@××××××××.org>:
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3 >> I'd REALLY like to see a FOSS alternative to Gmail (a good one, that
4 >> is), and ditto for Google docs (or whatever the latest branding for
5 >> that is). There is nothing magical about cloud-based services any more
6 >> than there is anything magical about letting somebody else host your
7 >> website. The key is to ensure that the technologies are open so that
8 >> you aren't bound to a single provider.
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10 > Rich,
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12 > If you are thinking of a FOSS email provider. Maybe investigate Fastmail?
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14 I think herein is a major misunderstanding.
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16 There ARE excellent Email Providers for nearly any kind of customer and customer profile - and many of them are only working with open source tools (GPL and/or BSD licensed f.i.).
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18 But if you are looking for a „cost free“ mail provider someone other has to pay for the service infrastructure and the skilled work and time experienced admins has to take in every day. At least Hardware and energy costs money on world market pricing, plus "cabling" etc. - even for Google and Co..
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20 Gmail does this (like many others) by placing ads and using your mail content and social / communication relationships to sell „statistics“ and more to third parties. If this fits YOU expectations, THIS is the correct product for yours.
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22 If you are willing to pay for a high quality email service you will find many really good products on the market, without ads and with respect for your possibly privacy needs (if you need such...) - fitting your needs depending from your expectations in detail.
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24 Most (private) peoples want „cost free“ email services - leading to that market of free and widely less quality mail services or give that job to peoples (i.e. a web agency which is "hosting provider btw“) who don’t have the abilities to run Email on such a professional level.
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26 btw: We switched away from sendmail and postfix later around 98 because of their inefficient ressource footprint for large scale email setups. Some of the very large mailers today still holding on postfix usually have developed their own strongly modified and mostly („crapped") "version" of it (more or less giggling around GPL barriers here) - this is not THAT postfix anymore most people get with their linux distri. ß)
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29 just my two cents,
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31 cheerioh,
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35 Niels.
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37 http://www.syndicat.com

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