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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> Rich Freeman wrote: |
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>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Fabian Groffen <grobian@g.o> wrote: |
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>>> On 24-07-2012 14:52:43 -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: |
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>>>> This is a change that will break all new installs and expecting |
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>>>> experienced gentoo users to read the handbook is simply a fantasy. |
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>>> I don't see how it breaks. And secondly, if you do refuse to read the |
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>>> manual, why don't you refuse to read elogs, news messages, and what |
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>>> more? |
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>> The difference is that news only communicates what is "news." Unless |
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>> the manual contains a revision history it contains everything you |
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>> already know, perhaps with a gem buried in there somewhere. |
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>> This is the same reason why when something is wrong with Chromium you |
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>> are supposed to post a 5-line patch to the bug and not a 300MB tarball |
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>> with the patch applied, though at least in that case modern tools |
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>> actually make finding the change fairly easy. |
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>>> Do we really have to babysit people, because they think they're too |
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>>> smart to check on the manual once again? Or when they notice things |
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>>> seem different? Any search engine is your friend. |
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>> There is the principle of not surprising people. This is a big change |
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>> - a file central to the config of Gentoo that has been in one place |
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>> for more than a decade, and is now moving. The change makes sense and |
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>> should be embraced, but there is no harm in pointing it out. |
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>> Sure, when my system breaks I'm pretty smart and can usually figure |
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>> out how to fix it. That doesn't mean that I don't appreciate a |
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>> heads-up before it breaks. |
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> +1 |
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> I might also add, I printed the manual years ago. I rarely look at the |
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> online version. |
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> User opinion. Back to eating my apple pie. |
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Another user opinion...it would be a significant improvement to the |
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stage images and live discs to include the latest copy of the |
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handbook, so that a network connection isn't required to access it. |
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But that's probably a subject for a different thread. And I think |
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that's at least three topics, now, this thread has touched on. |
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