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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:14:23
Message-Id: 500F01BC.8070900@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile) by Rich Freeman
1 Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Fabian Groffen <grobian@g.o> wrote:
3 >> On 24-07-2012 14:52:43 -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
4 >>> This is a change that will break all new installs and expecting
5 >>> experienced gentoo users to read the handbook is simply a fantasy.
6 >> I don't see how it breaks. And secondly, if you do refuse to read the
7 >> manual, why don't you refuse to read elogs, news messages, and what
8 >> more?
9 > The difference is that news only communicates what is "news." Unless
10 > the manual contains a revision history it contains everything you
11 > already know, perhaps with a gem buried in there somewhere.
12 >
13 > This is the same reason why when something is wrong with Chromium you
14 > are supposed to post a 5-line patch to the bug and not a 300MB tarball
15 > with the patch applied, though at least in that case modern tools
16 > actually make finding the change fairly easy.
17 >
18 >> Do we really have to babysit people, because they think they're too
19 >> smart to check on the manual once again? Or when they notice things
20 >> seem different? Any search engine is your friend.
21 > There is the principle of not surprising people. This is a big change
22 > - a file central to the config of Gentoo that has been in one place
23 > for more than a decade, and is now moving. The change makes sense and
24 > should be embraced, but there is no harm in pointing it out.
25 >
26 > Sure, when my system breaks I'm pretty smart and can usually figure
27 > out how to fix it. That doesn't mean that I don't appreciate a
28 > heads-up before it breaks.
29 >
30 > Rich
31 >
32 >
33
34
35 +1
36
37 I might also add, I printed the manual years ago. I rarely look at the
38 online version.
39
40 User opinion. Back to eating my apple pie.
41
42 Dale
43
44 :-) :-)
45
46 --
47 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile) Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>