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Seemant Kulleen wrote: |
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> If I were to guess I'd say people are a little confused that this |
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> required action/decision this quickly and outside of a regular council |
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> meeting -- for a real emergency situation, you'd probably see a lot less |
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> of a hub-bub about it. But, come on, this is a 3-package issue. |
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Perhaps they wanted to make sure it remained a 3-package issue, and |
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thought that it might grow before it could be addressed? |
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This all seems a bit like a tempest in a teapot to me, and I don't mean |
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to single out any individual's contribution to this discussion. |
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The council has stated that multiple version suffixes are to be avoided. |
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I doubt they're going to suspend any developer who hasn't cleaned up |
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their packages by Friday. I'm sure they're happy to see discussion on |
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- -dev regarding pros and cons of various ways of implementing this change |
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before it happens, and in the meantime new packages going into portage |
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will be mindful of the policy from the start. If a particular package |
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needs a month to sort out some really messy issue I'm sure the |
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maintainer would be treated reasonably if they simply emailed a council |
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member about it. |
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Gentoo is a community, and sometimes people in a community don't always |
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agree. Somebody has to make a decision, and we can't make every hill |
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the one we're willing to die on. The council will generally represent |
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the majority opinion of developers, simply due to the fact that it is an |
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elected body. |
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Sometimes in a community cohesiveness is more important than |
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productivity, because it is the ability to mobilize hordes of developers |
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that matters more than the contributions of any individual. Sometimes |
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that means an elegant solution to a problem gets put on the back burner |
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for a few months. Sometimes that means that a developer who is |
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unusually productive is asked to cool down a little. Personally, my |
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feeling has always been that if you want to avoid politics then avoid |
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doing things that create political messes (flamewars, heated discussion, |
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etc). If you disagree passionately with somebody about something, try |
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having a private email conversation where both of you can let down your |
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guard and try to understand each other's concerns. And then don't go |
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quoting each other all over public lists to bolster your arguments... |
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Remember, everybody is here to make Gentoo a better product, because |
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we're all users as well as contributors. When users file poorly-worded |
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bugs they're just trying to help, and when some developer makes an |
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"idiotic" decision they probably think they're doing the right thing. |
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That means that they're going to be automatically predisposed to helping |
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you out if you just ask nicely. |
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When posting as a user in bugzilla I've been flamed more than a few |
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times (and not just on gentoo). I just try to be as polite as I can - |
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after all I'm the one asking for a little help and somebody else is |
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taking the time to help me. After all, it doesn't cost me anything, and |
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down the road it could pay dividends. The same applies in reverse - |
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being nice to others doesn't really cost you anything, and you never |
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know when you will need their help down the road... |
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