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On 05/04/2016 06:46 AM, Matt Turner wrote: |
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> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Mike Gilbert <floppym@g.o> wrote: |
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>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Jeroen Roovers <jer@g.o> wrote: |
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>>> The solution is to have people with an actual interest in a specific |
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>>> architecture determine whether stabilising a package is viable, and |
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>>> taking sensible action, like dropping stable keywords where applicable. |
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>> If these people do not actually exist or are not doing their job by |
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>> culling the depgraph appropriately, we should really drop a number of |
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>> archs from "stable" status. |
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> I mostly agree, modulo the comment about people "doing their jobs". |
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> Arch testing completely sucks. |
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> Having built many stages for an "unstable" arch (mips) has taught me |
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> one thing: it's awful being unstable-only. There's no end to the |
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> compilation failures and other such headaches, none of which have |
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> anything at all to do with the specific architecture. |
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Thats bad |
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> Short of adding a middle level ("stable, wink wink nudge nudge") where |
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> things at least compile, I think the current situation is actually |
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If it doesn't compile on at least one architecture (the one where the |
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dev is doing the work) it shouldn't be committed to the tree at all, no |
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need for a middle layer. |
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> significantly better than the alternative of dropping them to |
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> unstable. |
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In a perfect world compile testing wouldn't be sufficient for stable |
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either, it actually should be properly tested before releasing it on |
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users and testsuites are sadly lacking in many situations. Even worse |
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for GUI applications that can't easily be tested without actual user |
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interaction, but as long as we keep servers in good shape I'm not |
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necessarily too worried about those, and it is possibly easier to spot |
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than a miscalculation in a statistics library |
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Maybe a workshop to write more testsuites is a fruitful event at some |
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point in time.. |
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