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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@×××××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 16:35:01
Message-Id: 20060518172659.5cc54cf1@snowdrop.home
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles by Paul de Vrieze
1 On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:26:06 +0200 Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
2 wrote:
3 | Then copy the bloody profile, or temporarilly add some magic in
4 | paludis that ignores portage and python deps. Not that hard to do.
5 | While not so beautiful it can easilly be removed at a later stage.
6
7 That removes valid dependencies.
8
9 | How far does that spread? Is this only for packages merged by
10 | paludis, or does it spread? And what reasons are there for paludis
11 | not to have a vdb format that will not confuse portage.
12
13 Anything merged by Paludis may have a VDB entry that will confuse
14 Portage. This is necessary for two reasons. Firstly, we have some
15 features that Portage doesn't. Secondly, the VDB entries generated by
16 Portage under certain circumstances (symlink/dir merge mismatches) are
17 incomplete and incorrect, and Portage's unmerge code will falsely
18 remove and falsely leave behind garbage when this happens, and we see
19 no reason to emulate this bug.
20
21 | It is very important that package managers coexist with portage. This
22 | allows testing of that package manager, but also the testing of a
23 | package / eclass on different package managers. It would be
24 | irrealistic to require devs to have a different installation just for
25 | testing packages with paludis/pkgcore.
26
27 Can you install Portage 2.0 and Portage 2.1 in parallel?
28
29 | > > 4) Will Paludis ever become a Gentoo Project?
30 | >
31 | > Doubtful, barring some rather drastic changes in Gentoo and the way
32 | > its projects are handled.
33 |
34 | So you are asking to go towards replacing portage with a package
35 | manager that is not under gentoo control?
36
37 What about Portage is under Gentoo control? Were Portage under Gentoo
38 control, it would have the features that Gentoo developers require by
39 now. Like, say, :slot deps. Similarly, Gentoo has no problem with bash,
40 despite it not being a Gentoo project...
41
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43 Ciaran McCreesh
44 Mail : ciaran dot mccreesh at blueyonder.co.uk
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>