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On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:02:19PM -0800, Alec Warner wrote: |
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> 1) systemd-udev will require systemd. Stated by the systemd |
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> maintainers themselves as a thing they want to do in the future. Some |
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> users don't want to use systemd. We could go into detail as to why; |
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> but I think that is not as important as one may think. The point is |
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> that the desire is there, and thusly there are users who want to make |
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> other systems (namely openrc) work. |
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> People like openrc. My VMs for instance, boot reasonably quickly. |
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> Booting 5 seconds faster may be super duper, but not at the cost of an |
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> existing reliable solution. |
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So is this the goal? Great, someone say that then, that's all I'm |
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asking for here. |
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> > That's wonderful, seriously. But why is this suddenly an official |
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> > Gentoo project? When did that happen, and why? Why not just do a |
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> > "normal" project and if it matures and is good enough, then add it to |
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> > the distro like all other packages are added. |
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> > My main point here is the fact that this is now being seen as an act by |
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> > Gentoo, the distro / foundation. And that happened in private, without |
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> > any anouncement. Which is not good on many levels. |
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> I'm unsure on what grounds you disapprove. People start (and abandon) |
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> projects often in Gentoo. Suddenly you dislike one such project and |
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> object to this practice? Certainly if we had to get some sort of |
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> Foundation consensus (for anything) nothing would happen. We can't |
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> even get more than 40% of foundation members to vote. |
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I object if this is seen as a "Gentoo blessed" fork of a community |
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project that is worked on by all other major Linux distros. That is the |
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type of decision that can be made by the Gentoo Council, which is fine, |
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but it sure would be nice if it were publicly stated, instead of having |
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to see it on the Gentoo github site instead. |
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And if that is the decision of the council, I would expect the ability |
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to have some type of discussion about it, wouldn't you? |
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Also, the whole issue with the copyrights is very serious, for the |
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reasons I've stated before. Don't mess with copyrights, developers, and |
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companies, take them very serious, as they are the basis for our |
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licenses. |
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thanks, |
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greg k-h |
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