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From: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: Richard Yao <ryao@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 02:21:12
Message-Id: 20121123022028.GD4100@comet.hsd1.mn.comcast.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012) by Greg KH
1 On 23:57 Sat 17 Nov , Greg KH wrote:
2 > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:02:19PM -0800, Alec Warner wrote:
3 > > I'm unsure on what grounds you disapprove. People start (and abandon)
4 > > projects often in Gentoo. Suddenly you dislike one such project and
5 > > object to this practice? Certainly if we had to get some sort of
6 > > Foundation consensus (for anything) nothing would happen. We can't
7 > > even get more than 40% of foundation members to vote.
8 >
9 > I object if this is seen as a "Gentoo blessed" fork of a community
10 > project that is worked on by all other major Linux distros. That is the
11 > type of decision that can be made by the Gentoo Council, which is fine,
12 > but it sure would be nice if it were publicly stated, instead of having
13 > to see it on the Gentoo github site instead.
14 >
15 > And if that is the decision of the council, I would expect the ability
16 > to have some type of discussion about it, wouldn't you?
17
18 Sorry to follow up late but I feel like the critical point never made it
19 clearly into this discussion.
20
21 The key misunderstanding here seems to be that initiation of a "Gentoo
22 project" means that the council explicitly supports it, because in most
23 distributions there is no choice available to end users at this level of
24 detail.
25
26 Instead, in Gentoo, the council-level decision typically happens when
27 the *default* changes. Non-default or non-mandatory things are handled
28 in a nearly anarchic, ad hoc manner, where anyone can do pretty much
29 whatever they want as an official Gentoo project.
30
31 --
32 Thanks,
33 Donnie
34
35 Donnie Berkholz
36 Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com>
37 Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/>

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