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On 8/7/06, Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@×××××.de> wrote: |
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> Okay, you simply don't want to talk or even think about this issue. |
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You have had lots of help from many different Gentoo developers and |
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users on your recent issues. All of these people are volunteers, and |
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have given their time and expertise to you for free. |
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Folks have been *very* patient with you - far more than *you* have |
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been with them. |
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> I won't waste more of my lifetime with it, and I won't let you |
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> do more acts of demotiviation. If you wouldn't have descrited my |
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> intensions this way and these personal attacks didn't happen, |
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Again - folks have been *very* patient with you, and have worked hard |
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to explain to you why the suggestions you've made are ones that we |
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don't agree with. |
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Instead of trying to fight all of Gentoo, you would do better to first |
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learn how a Gentoo system (and its packages) are intended to work, and |
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why. Gentoo's radical improvements over binary distros can be both |
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overwhelming and confusing at first. |
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> I would have set up my own overlay for this project and simply |
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> fix the problem. But obviously this isn't wanted here. |
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We welcome contributions to Gentoo. Folks are free to contribute by |
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contacting package maintainers directly, by getting involved on |
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mailing lists, by filing bugs and patches in bugzilla, by contributing |
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to official overlays (on o.g.o and elsewhere), and by contributing to |
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the Sunrise project. We're truly a community distro - one of only two |
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(Debian being the other) - and we live or die by the support we get |
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from the wider community. |
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I think setting up your own overlay is a great idea. I can't think of |
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a better way for you to learn about upgrades, downgrades, SLOTing and |
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dependency atoms than by maintaining a bunch of packages for a year or |
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two. |
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> All my other improvement efforts were simply ignored either or |
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> directly discredited, so they're also not wanted. |
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If you are saying that patches from you have been included into Gentoo |
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without appropriate credit, please let us know. That should not |
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happen. |
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On the other hand, if you are saying that you are feeling ignored ... |
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well, imagine how we feel. We've tried to help you, and explain |
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what's where and why, and we feel that you're either not listening or |
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just not understanding what we're saying. |
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> You just want |
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> to remain in your traditional grid of thinking. You won't ever |
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> listen, so I'll let you stay there in peace. |
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Maybe *you* need to learn to listen, in order for others to listen to you? |
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> I'm now warned that I it's not wise to use gentoo for mission |
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> critical environments. |
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Bullshit. Gentoo is a *great* solution for mission critical environments. |
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We have suggested to you that it's not wise for *you* to be using |
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Gentoo. You either don't want to learn how to use Gentoo the way it |
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is meant to be used, or it's too difficult for you. Either way, until |
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that changes, it's difficult to see how you will be happy using |
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Gentoo, or trying to contribute back to it. |
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Best regards, |
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Stu |
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