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On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 12:59 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote: |
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> On 02/01/17 17:49, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Kent Fredric <kentnl@g.o> wrote: |
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>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:23:58 +0000 |
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>>> Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>>>> Because it isn't... Are set names atoms? Are package names without an |
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>>>> associated category atoms? |
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>>> Sets /are/ still dependency specifications, in that reading, just like |
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>>> || ( ) groups are dependency specifications, and lists of atoms are dependency specifications. |
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>>> Hence, this is an example of in my mind why "atom" is a *better* descriptor than "dependency specification" |
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>>> Because it rules out sets and all the other shenanigans. |
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>> However, in this case why would we want to rule out sets, "and all the |
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>> other shenanigans?" We've already established that a single stable |
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>> request bug can apply to multiple package-versions, so why not allow |
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>> full dependency specifications? If there is a set that describes what |
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>> needs to be stabilized in an atomic operation, then what is the value |
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>> in breaking it down into a million separate =-only atoms? |
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>> If the process becomes further aided by automated tools then using the |
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>> same dependency specifications as PMS/etc would allow the same code to |
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>> be used to identify candidate PVs to stabilize. |
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>> Of course in the most typical case you're stabilizing exactly one PV, |
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>> but I'm not sure we need to limit the syntax simply because that is |
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>> all that is required in the most common case. |
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> I don't think we're writing new tools to do this, we're simply using the |
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> existing ones better. So, a list of explicit ebuilds by |
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> Category/Package-Version is what's desired (I believe). But I'll defer |
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> to kensington/ago who are the ones really using this system in anger ... |
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Even if you don't write new tools, I don't see how sets would cause a |
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problem. A set is just a list of dependency specifications, which is |
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what we're otherwise storing. There is no rule against putting 100 |
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specific package versions in either. If you have a set that describes |
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something like a KDE stabilization I'd think that this would be |
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preferable to listing all the KDE packages in the box. |
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But, if somebody can see a problem this would cause I'm all ears. |
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Rich |
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