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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFD] Adopt-a-package, proxy-maintenance, and other musings
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:25:39
Message-Id: T5C8F71qRGt1A5lfLk+i8m@iqEBuidLDq3V+Mq1yqhr0
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFD] Adopt-a-package, proxy-maintenance, and other musings by William Hubbs
1 On 2016.01.21 16:53, William Hubbs wrote:
2 > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:35:15AM -0800, Alec Warner wrote:
3 > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:44 PM, NP-Hardass <NP-Hardass@g.o>
4 > wrote:
5 > >
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8 > > >
9 > > > With all of the unclaimed herds and unclaimed packages within
10 > them, I
11 > > > started to wonder what will happen after the GLEP 67 transition
12 > > > finally comes to fruition. This left me with some concerns and I
13 > was
14 > > > wondering what the community thinks about them, and some possible
15 > > > solutions.
16 > > >
17 > > > There is a large number of packages from unclaimed herds that, at
18 > this
19 > > > time, look like they will not be claimed by developers. This will
20 > > > likely result in a huge increase in maintainer-needed packages
21 > (and
22 > > > subsequent package rot). This isn't to say that some of these
23 > > > packages weren't previously in a "maintainer-needed" like state,
24 > but
25 > > > now, they will explicitly be there.
26 > > >
27 > >
28 > > Speaking as the dude who founded the treecleaners project...all
29 > things die.
30 > > Even software. While some may yearn for a software archive (nee,
31 > > graveyard!), I put forth that the gentoo-x86 tree is not such a
32 > thing. Do
33 > > not weep for the unmaintained packages that will be cleaned![1]
34 >
35 > I couldn't have said this better myself. The gentoo-x86 tree is not a
36 > software archival service. If packages are unmaintained, that is what
37 > the treecleaners project is for is to boot those packages out of the
38 > tree.
39 >
40 > I would like to see a possible timelimit set on how long packages can
41 > stay in maintainer-needed; once a package goes there, if we can't find
42 > someone to maintain it, we should consider booting it after that time
43 > limit passes.
44 >
45 > If someone wants to run the graveyard overlay and keep those old
46 > packages around more power to them, but they definitely do not
47 > belong in the main tree if they are unmaintained for an extended
48 > period
49 > of time.
50 >
51 > William
52 >
53 >
54
55 There is no point in removing unmaintained but perfectly functional software from the tree.
56 It needs to be both unmaintained and broken. Broken being evidenced by at least one open bug.
57
58 How would you define unmaintained?
59 Maybe its not changed for a year or two because there is no need for any maintenance?
60
61 --
62 Regards,
63
64 Roy Bamford
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