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Fabio Erculiani wrote: |
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| [02:31] <Halcy0n> lxnay: we offer all of our work that you base your |
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| distribution off, and you don't contribute back at all, in any way. |
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| ^^ This is a really stupid sentence. It seems some of you don't even |
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| realize how many users we brought to Gentoo, and this is really sad. |
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Saying 'this is stupid' won't convince anyone and moreover damage your attempt |
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to build any positive relationship. If the statement is false, simply show with |
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a few examples that it isn't true. To react to a (perceived) personal attack |
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with anger (even if justified) and (more) mudslinging is not going to achieve |
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anything than a further breakdown of communication. Try a more political |
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approach, if you want to get your point across. |
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Personally, I admire your attempt to contribute back and get bugs fixed. I am |
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all for better relationships between Gentoo and Sabayon, because I believe |
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cooperation will be to our mutual benefit. So I think the discussion should |
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concentrate on: |
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~ - what are the best ways to contribute |
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~ - what are the best channels to get bugs fixed |
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~ - how could we streamline these processes |
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I can't believe there is any serious dev that would not want improvement. On the |
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other hand, we are all volunteers and have limited time. Also, there is the |
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natural tendency in most people to stick with the known, to resist changes. And |
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in a big organisation such as Gentoo there will always be various differing |
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points of view. The resulting bureaucracy and politics is something we have to |
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live with, improving it where we can. |
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Therefore, I think that if you really want to improve things, you will have to |
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work with the current infrastructure. Keep filing bugs in bugzilla, keep |
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contributing patches, keep trying to work with other devs, and you _will_ gain |
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respect. That way you will also be in a much better position to suggest changes |
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and to propose ways of streamlining processes. |
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It may take a fair bit of investing time and even swallowing pride. But if you |
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do the work, and let personal attacks and annoyances slide off your thick skin, |
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you _will_ create a win-win situation. |
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Honestly wishing you the best, |
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Ben |
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