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Dylan Carlson wrote: |
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> On Monday 06 June 2005 16:55, Aron Griffis wrote: |
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>>I think that attempting to take Gentoo in the "enterprise" direction |
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>>is a mistake. I think that we are a hobbyist distribution. This |
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>>doesn't mean that we should not strive to meet some of the enterprise |
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>>goals. Those things can be important to hobbyists too. But I don't |
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>>think we should be aiming for corporate America. |
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> I've always felt Gentoo is better as a base or platform. There's certainly |
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> enough power in the tools we provide for anyone to roll something |
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> "enterprise" based upon our work. Or for any other purpose, including |
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> binary-only. |
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There is power in Gentoo, the way you set things up, the choice |
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provided, the overall goal of Gentoo. There is not power in our tools. |
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Our tools are in fact underpowered IMHO. Thats one of the areas where |
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I think work is really needed, and a lot of what I want to work on is |
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portage-related tools. Much of this requires new portage API's which |
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are in progress but take a lot of work. |
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There is an installer project that will in principle facilitate large |
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scale Gentoo deployments, there is a GLEP for a stable tree, there is |
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hardened, and all of those are great. |
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> Much in the same way as there are numerous distros that ARE Debian -- |
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> derived from and cooperative with, but not separate from. |
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> People could always try to fork, too, but many of us know how well that |
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> went for people who have tried... |
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Much better to be a meta meta distro such as Ubuntu that runs off of a |
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core gentoo install than to fork stuff, especially at present. |
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> Cheers, |
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I think in the end, Gentoo is too much a dynamic entity to be used for |
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a stable enterprise rollout. You would need something debianesque with |
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releases, or a Gentoo Snapshot ( say 2005.0 with bugfixes/security ). I |
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wonder at the allocation of things ( say the mySQL profile ) and when |
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things like that stay on Gentoo-owned hardware, vs. something like |
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breakmygentoo which is 3rd party. However I have faith that the |
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managers will enforce whatever is decided. |
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The whole point of this Open Source stuff anyway is to adapt things |
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however you need them, and Enterprise or not everyone has that option. |
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