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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:15:56
Message-Id: 1131113243.18994.9.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting by "Stephen P. Becker"
1 On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 20:43 -0500, Stephen P. Becker wrote:
2 > How about getting some facts straight before running your mouth? Gentoo
3 > most certainly does not expect users to have a web browser to install.
4 > The last time I actually installed on x86 (which was some time ago
5 > admittedly), there was a .txt version of the install guide on the livecd.
6
7 Exactly.
8
9 > Even then, the web browser you are speaking of runs directly off the
10 > livecd. So, what happens when there is critical news to be read during
11 > the install phase inside the chroot, but no web browser is yet
12 > installed? Are you suggesting we bloat stage1 and stage2 with some sort
13 > of XML parser so that the user can read news without having to kill the
14 > emerge and read the news outside the chroot? I think you would have a
15 > seriously hard time convincing the release folks this is a good idea.
16
17 We won't add more cruft to the stages. We're already to the point of
18 trying to determine ways to reduce stage size, not increase it.
19
20 > Furthermore, it is not possible to include any sort of XML parser with
21 > installers for certain arches which use very minimal netboots for the
22 > default installation method. So really, your complaints about the
23 > "lightweight" requirement appears to just be a way of subverting
24 > attention away from the real reasons it is a good idea, and towards
25 > maintaining a flamewar with ciaran that you will surely lose.
26
27 What is it for SPARC again? 4MB for both kernel + initrd?
28
29 --
30 Chris Gianelloni
31 Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
32 x86 Architecture Team
33 Games - Developer
34 Gentoo Linux

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