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I really enjoyed last weeks discussion about enterprise, devs, and |
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users. But I think a significant number of users don't fall into any of |
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those categories... well at least I don't. |
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I'm an admin and have only worked in ISP, NSP, hosting, and startup |
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gigs. These systems tend to be fast moving, customer and feature driven, |
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and a bit on the bleeding edge. I don't believe any of those |
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environments fall into what is normally considered "enterprise", but |
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they are production systems with a premium on flexibility over stability |
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much like a Linux distribution we all know and love. :) |
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Running Gentoo in production has been a competitive advantage for us. |
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Need tomcat installed? Here it is. Need PHP5? Here it is. Need XML |
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nonsense in PHP? Here it is. Need a Mysql driven virtual mail system? |
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Here it is. At the time to do the above on most stable or enterprise |
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systems would have involved waiting for the packages I wanted to be |
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releases 12-18 months after the fact or becoming a dev. Neither are a |
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great use of my time. I'll take a few thousand random Gentoo users |
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posting on the forums over a QA department of just me. So rather than |
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see Gentoo think about doing or not doing enterprise type stuff like |
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long releases, support contracts, etc I think most of us LAMP, MRTG, |
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Nagios, BIND, Postfix, Qmail, Postgres, thttpd, Courier, etc geeks would |
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like "just a bit more stability" rather than the overhead that comes |
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with enterprise features. |
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Some people really like the idea of snapshots. I'm not completely sold |
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on it, but would find it interesting if it were 6 month snapshots or |
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less. I like the idea of meta builds. I'd be even more interested in |
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snapshotting only the meta build rather than the whole OS. The mail |
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server stays stable, but the rest updates as normal... I'm sure that |
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idea will turn out to have significant drawbacks. Reverse dependency |
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checking... been discussed to death and we all know it's coming. Once |
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it's working well that's going to eliminate a number of problems |
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especially if it'll warn you at the emerge -upv level that some updates |
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are going to require a revdep-rebuild rather than after the fact. |
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To be honest /etc/portage/* tends be enough control for me, but I've |
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been doing admin work for 9 years. And I've got a test environment that |
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I use religiously. I do however answer a lot of questions in the Network |
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and Security forum where up and coming admins aren't so lucky. I don't |
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think any of us expect a foolproof system, but there is room for a bit |
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more stability that'll benefit all users... especially admins. :) |
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Hopefully this sparks some more interesting debate. |
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kashani |
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