Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Matti Bickel <mabi@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:12:55
Message-Id: 20070405140739.GB30053@pluto.local
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April by Ciaran McCreesh
1 Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@×××××××.org> wrote:
2 > > If they want to have sekrit meetings with sekrit handshakes, let
3 > > them. If enough people think this is not acceptable, they'll be gone
4 > > on the next election.
5 >
6 > Which is all very well, but it's kind of hard to evaluate the
7 > effectiveness of Council members and the Council as a whole if they're
8 > doing things behind everyone's backs and making horrible threats to try
9 > to prevent people from publishing logs of their goings on...
10
11 Please evaluate the council's effectivness based on their achievements.
12 And no, secret meetings don't count towards that.
13
14 Seriously, i understand that the council should be as transparent as
15 possible, but there are issues that need some confidential handling.
16
17 > threatening to pull each others' access if anyone goes public with
18 > whatever it was that was discussed, *something* has to be done...
19
20 Um, that's hard to say without the thing in the open. I just trust the
21 involved parties to have enough insight to bring anything that would
22 harm gentoo to public scrunity (and following outcry).
23
24 > The details can remain private if necessary, but publishing a brief
25 > summary along the lines of "we discussed x and y and decided z" *has*
26
27 Um, wait. Council *decisions*, as long as they're affecting gentoo's
28 ways, must be out in the open. We won't end up with National Security
29 Letters to infra or something (and i trust there'll be an uproar, if it
30 ever reaches that point). Say, if the council decides to ice a project,
31 how can that be kept secret?
32 --
33 Regards, Matti Bickel
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