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On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 14:09:12 +0200 |
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Wernfried Haas <amne@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:26:41AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> > Unfortunately, what the GLEP doesn't do is prevent the Council from |
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> > having secret meetings and refusing to discuss not only the content |
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> > of those meetings but even the topic. Perhaps a requirement that any |
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> > Council meeting logs be made public would be useful, with a waiver |
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> > that the Council can have a secret meeting if it officially |
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> > announces that it is doing so? |
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> If they want to have sekrit meetings with sekrit handshakes, let |
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> them. If enough people think this is not acceptable, they'll be gone |
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> on the next election. |
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Which is all very well, but it's kind of hard to evaluate the |
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effectiveness of Council members and the Council as a whole if they're |
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doing things behind everyone's backs and making horrible threats to try |
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to prevent people from publishing logs of their goings on... |
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I mean, what're people supposed to think from the likes of these? |
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Kugelfang> there have been, at that time, 6 council members plus one |
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non council members in that channel |
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Kugelfang> ciaranm: and that's all i'll say regarding that, until the |
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rest allows me to speak about the contents of that meeting |
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Kugelfang> i really wish i could publish this thing |
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and: |
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wolf31o2|mobile> we're entrusted by certain outside parties to not |
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disclose things that are spoken to us in confidence |
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tove> wolf31o2|mobile: how are outside parties involved in "our" coc? i |
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don't understand this. can you please elaborate on it? |
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wolf31o2|mobile> tove: no, I cannot elaborate, nor do I care to... just |
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realize that Gentoo has responsibilities to outside parties that |
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provide services and goods to Gentoo... we have relationships that |
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we would like to maintain... and that's about all I can say (or |
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have time to say... I am at work) |
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I mean, when it's reached the point where certain Council members are |
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threatening to pull each others' access if anyone goes public with |
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whatever it was that was discussed, *something* has to be done... The |
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details can remain private if necessary, but publishing a brief summary |
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along the lines of "we discussed x and y and decided z" *has* to be |
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less harmful than the current mess where people are deleting their work |
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and considering resignation because of whatever it is the Council are |
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up to... |
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Ciaran McCreesh |
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