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From: Peter Ruskin <aoyu93@×××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Menu - Some Comments
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 10:02:39
Message-Id: 200308141102.32504.aoyu93@dsl.pipex.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Menu - Some Comments by Svyatogor
1 On Thursday 14 Aug 2003 09:11, Svyatogor wrote:
2 > Hello Guys!
3 > After reading the discussion which followed after Heinrich's initial
4 > mail, I realised that a lot of you missunderstood the primary goal of
5 > our project.
6 >
7 > Goal 1: This is something everyone understood - create a common menu
8 > layout, which would be independent of the window manager. This point
9 > sound quite important for those people who use more than one WM.
10 > However, I pereceive it as a secondary goal.
11 >
12 > Goal 2: This is the major one. I have to refer to the experiesnse of
13 > using the offtopic OS (the on made by M$). When you install some
14 > application, you immediately see a menu entry in your start menu, and
15 > (in most cases) you don't have to search on your hard for the exe and
16 > add it manually. Unfortunately it hasn't been the case for most of
17 > the Linux systems. If I'm running KDE and install kde-app - it's
18 > fine. But if I install a non DE-specific tool I have to find (or
19 > guess) what is the name of the executable and add it to the menu
20 > myself. This is called user-*unfriendly*. Especially for new users
21 > who are just starting to use Gentoo.
22
23 But easy nonetheless. I recently emerged bcast200. No .desktop files
24 were installed, so no menu entry. I decided it belonged in
25 /usr/share/applnk/Multimedia so opened an existing .desktop file there
26 in kwrite, modified and saved it as bcast.desktop.
27
28 We can't make Gentoo like Windows. Gentoo users, however new, have to
29 be able to edit configuration files or they'd never be able to install
30 it in the first place.
31
32 My bad experience of Mandrake's menu implementation (copied from Debian)
33 influences my reaction to your proposals. There they decided to
34 disable kmenuedit and reroute all KDE menus into their own tree. I
35 will have nothing to do with any such interference to a good, working
36 menu system.
37
38 >
39 > Finally let me stress it out once again. The system is *completely*
40 > optional - you don't like it - don't run it.
41 >
42 Good.
43
44 Peter
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Menu - Some Comments Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Menu - Some Comments Svyatogor <svyatogor@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Menu - Some Comments Stuart Herbert <stuart@g.o>