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Peter Weber <peterle@×××××××××××××.org> posted |
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1160688721.26585.13.camel@×××××.homenetwork, excerpted below, on Thu, 12 |
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Oct 2006 23:32:01 +0200: |
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> You seem to think that the discussion is around you, and your work :-) |
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> It is about Gentoo, please keep this in mind. Nobody says YOU have to |
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> make the work, or that you are doing sth. wrong. You could do the job, |
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> but you don't must do anything/everything alone. You want that Gentoo |
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> "needs" a internet-connection, and their should be now way to install |
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> Gentoo without access to the web? |
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But it /is/ around him and his work. Check the release engineering |
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(releng) project page -- Chris G is project lead. Thus, if you are |
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discussing Gentoo releases, you are by definition discussing his work. |
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Sure, he doesn't do it alone, but he's the project lead, and as such takes |
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the responsibility for the decisions and the bugs. He's saying there were |
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too many bugs the old way and it's not coming back, he and the others are |
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volunteering, you aren't going to make him make them come back, as long as |
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that remains the case, because volunteers can't be forced to do |
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anything... they just quit volunteering if it comes to that. |
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Now you /can/ do several things to change that, if you don't like it. |
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One, it's free software. The tools are there. You can build your own |
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(more on that below). Two, if you are good at building such things (and |
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working with other volunteers), you can become a Gentoo developer and one |
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of those volunteers yourself, thereby ensuring the solution you want is |
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available to others by being part of it. Three, in the event you aren't |
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skilled enough to do the second or even the first, you still have the |
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option of sponsoring someone who /does/ have those skills. If you are |
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paying the bills, you call the shots. It's no longer a volunteer |
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situation (tho of course someone can choose to contract for you or not, |
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but if you have the money, you can almost always find someone to work for |
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it). |
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> On Question: Is their a howto, a script or a offical guidline how you or |
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> other gentoo-devs build the Universal-Disc's, what must be included an |
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> so on? I found for Gentoo-2005 an unoffical Universal-Disc for x86, but |
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> it presents itselft as Minimal-CD a things like that. So it seems not to |
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> be a good example for me. |
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/Now/ we're getting somewhere. Participation is a /good/ thing, and |
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certainly possible even if you don't choose the commitment of being a |
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developer. =8^) |
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This isn't my area, but you'd start by merging catalyst and looking at |
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its documentation, since that's what Gentoo releng uses to build its own |
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release stages and CDs. The releng project page has a bit more info |
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including a list of developers on the project, and links to the catalyst |
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subproject, with further links to the catalyst FAQ and reference manuals. |
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Checking the IRC page, there's a gentoo-releng channel tho I don't see a |
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catalyst specific channel listed. On the mailing list page there are |
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lists for both releng and catalyst listed. That's what I found in about |
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five minutes browsing the Gentoo site, but I knew already where to look as |
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I already knew the general layout of the site and that catalyst was the |
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tool and releng the top level project, from hanging out here for a couple |
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years. |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |
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