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On Sunday, September 07, 2014 01:16:57 AM Andrew Savchenko wrote: |
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> Hello, |
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> On Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:15:53 +0800 Patrick Lauer wrote: |
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> > On Sunday 31 August 2014 11:39:22 hasufell wrote: |
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> > > Martin Vaeth: |
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> > > > hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > >> On 08/30/2014 02:35 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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> > > >>> For net-im/skype, |
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> > > >> |
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> > > >> Screw skype. |
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> > > > |
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> > > > Please don't. Not all communication partners are linux users. |
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> > > |
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> > > Tox is multiplatform. |
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> > > |
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> > > >> We have tox [1] on the way. |
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> > > > |
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> > > > This is far from being ready, especially for non-specialists. |
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> > > > It is not even foreseeable whether the Android client will ever |
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> > > > be able to do at least audio. (So far, I was not even able to |
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> > > > exchange any messages at all. It may be my mistakes, but |
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> > > > if I am not able to do it, how could I expect this from casual |
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> > > > computer users?) |
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> > > |
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> > > This has nothing to do with specialists. Tox is configuration-free. |
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> > > |
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> > > And sure, it's pre-alpha as indicated in my previous mail. |
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> > So it doesn't work, but you feel the need to feel superior by telling |
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> > everyone else that they are doing it wrong. |
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> Can't agree with you here. I just tried tox (utox client) from |
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> tox-overlay. Works like charm from the box, the only "unusual" |
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> thing I did is keyword added to package.keywords in order to |
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> install live ebuild. |
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> I tested text messages, audio and video from double-nat environment |
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> (where SIP clients can work only using stune and only some of them). |
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It probably works, provided all your contacts also use it. |
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As long as the vast majority of my contacts use Skype and Yahoo, I will not |
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be able to switch. If Kopete (and other generic IM clients) would add |
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support for tox, then it would be easier. |
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> It should be noted that at least in Linux skype is much harder to |
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> install and use since it requires pulseaudio and I don't use |
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> that sh^W stuff. So skype reqires its own LXC container set up |
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> which is doable, but costed me a day (with all tight isolation |
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> stuff). And I even had not mentione that installation of skype |
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> equals to trojan injection into the system (that's why I used all |
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> that LXC and separate X server precautions). |
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If you want to isolate a package, then yes, it is more difficult then just |
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running " emerge skype " (Which works flawlessly for me). |
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I also had no issues installing pulseaudio. (Apart from having to undo |
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some alsa-settings to default to the normal audio output instead of the |
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HDMI one). |
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Which trojan injection are you talking about? |
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