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From: Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:02:12
Message-Id: 47C99A1B.7020009@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March by "Raúl Porcel"
1 Raúl Porcel wrote:
2 > Peter Weller wrote:
3 >>
4 >> Oh, I'd be more than happy to accept help from developers like that.
5 >> It's just a case of what the "big bosses" think of it. Plus there's
6 >> the fact that some other arches operate on a "it compiles, mark it
7 >> stable" policy, and we don't want developers to bring that attitude to
8 >> the amd64 team.
9 >
10 > Hope you're not referring to any of my arches because that's not true :)
11 > In fact, if i did that, i wouldn't crash the alpha dev box so often,
12 > right Tobias?
13 >
14
15 I dunno - I just hit bug 211021 today while trying to clean out old
16 bugs. Already stable on one arch and not a word from the maintainer.
17
18 I do agree with many of the posts in this thread by others - a big issue
19 is manpower. However, I did want to mention that stabling packages
20 without input from maintainers seems to be a moderately-common practice.
21 I'm sure the arch team leaders would welcome help if it were offered,
22 but it is more important that packages keyworded stable actually work
23 than for the latest-and-greatest package to be marked stable.
24 Interested users can volunteer to be ATs as well - in my past experience
25 as an AT when I keyworded a bug STABLE I could expect to see it
26 committed by a dev within a few hours.
27
28 While amd64 is a lot more mainstream than it used to be you can't just
29 assume that upstream wouldn't have released something if it didn't work
30 perfectly on amd64.
31
32 Somebody had commented that there are cases where there are
33 already-stable packages with bugs in them that are causing problems.
34 Feel free to ping one of us, or start a discussion on the -amd64 mailing
35 list, or email the amd64@ alias if necessary if something in particular
36 is causing major headaches. Simply posting a comment in bug 37 out of
37 250 probably won't get much attention. I'm sure all the amd64 devs want
38 to do what they can to help out those with more obscure packages. There
39 are a LOT of packages marked stable on amd64 though, and while it has
40 improved greatly upstream still doesn't support it as well as it does
41 x86 (though I'm sure we won't get much sympathy from most of the other
42 archs in this regard :) ).
43
44 No disputing that there is a problem - we just want to be careful that
45 the solution isn't worse than the problem...
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March Christian Faulhammer <opfer@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March "Raúl Porcel" <armin76@g.o>