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On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 08:26, Patrick Lauer wrote: |
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> Not allmighty. In some circumstances the GPL is not usable. |
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> But _if_ (theoretically) the wine project had used the GPL from the |
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> beginning no other project could have profited (in a monetary sense) |
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> from their work. |
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> But since they did not think that anybody would abuse the licensing |
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> freedom from their old license they did not use the GPL. |
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Codeweavers, who hosts the wine project, and also sells several modified |
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versions of wine, would also have been bound by their own licensing and |
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would be unable to do business. This is exactly why I used the example |
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that I did. |
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> and the GPL is one method of keeping software free. |
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Who said anything about keeping software free? |
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> Yes, but as a "Free" Software Developer the BSD license is almost unacceptable |
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> since everybody and his dog can take your software. |
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...and you can use it in a commercial venture yourself without breaking |
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the terms of the license YOU CHOSE. The only other solution is to |
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create your own license. |
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> You are stomping around on semantics. derived or patched, where do you draw |
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> the line? From my point of view winex is an extensive patch to an older |
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> version of wine. |
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So Mandrake is an extensive patch to an older version of Red Hat? |
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Gentoo is simply an extensive patch to the Linux kernel? You're |
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speaking as someone who has a biased opinion without bothering to follow |
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the development of these projects. There are several projects that use |
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the wine sources. Transgaming is not alone. |
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> And yes, they made a simple request, but to me it sounds like "Stop |
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> giving away the software we 'borrowed' from someone else" |
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Actually, if you bothered to look in their CVS, you would see how much |
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has been completely rewritten and how much completely new functionality |
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has been added. |
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> I really dislike the licensing terms of transgaming, and I suppose their |
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> CVS was made available to reduce the flak from Open Source Fanatics :-) |
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I seem to recall something about a pot and a kettle. Fanaticism starts |
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at home. |
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> Yes. But I have a strong conviction that other people should be made |
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> aware of the surrounding issues. |
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Great! Then get your facts straight with the *truth* and spread that. |
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How about reading the mailing list archives where you will find that the |
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core wine developers were completely aware of what was going on and were |
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all for it. The only "issues" abound are ones created by people looking |
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to make a name for themselves or to simply argue. |
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> Because it includes Microsoft? |
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No, because Microsoft's shared source program is in no way free, nor |
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open. Not to mention it immediately brings on strong feelings from |
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either side of the fence. When picking an example to argue, it is best |
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not to pick one that brings about a slashbot mentality, especially if |
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you're trying to prove an objective point. |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Developer, Gentoo Linux |
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