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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 16:59:56
Message-Id: CAGfcS_mDRKnzgFU7yXs2q9O9C-hsaqtEBPk=zaOrT4EHmbW_yA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] more help needed with gcc-4.8 stabilization, chromium starts heavily using C++11 by "Diego Elio Pettenò"
1 On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
2 <flameeyes@×××××××××.eu> wrote:
3 > On 19 October 2014 16:57, hasufell <hasufell@g.o> wrote:
4 >>> If maintainers want to NEEDINFO or WONTFIX a tinderbox bug, well,
5 >>> they'll be the ones picking up the pieces when the gcc upgrade moves
6 >>> ahead.
7 >>
8 >> We are all picking up the pieces.
9 >>
10 >>> I don't get why anybody wouldn't like seeing them.
11 >>>
12 >>
13 >> I do, it's childish and uncollaborative behavior from that person
14 >> closing the bugs (any1 still wondering who we are talking about?). And
15 >> that behavior is tolerated. Are you saying you want to change something
16 >> about it?
17 >
18 > So who wants to pick up the pieces now? Because I'm almost pissed off
19 > enough to turn down the tinderbox and give a big FU to Gentoo already.
20 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527608
21
22 I'm not sure who "owns" policy around bugzilla. If nothing else I'm
23 happy to put this on the next Council agenda. If QA or Comrel wants
24 to step in sooner they're welcome to, but if they're looking for a
25 policy to enforce the Council could probably provide one.
26
27 Self-contained bugs in general make sense, and I'm all for finding a
28 better solution than what the tinderbox currently supplies. However,
29 until that solution comes along I think we're better off having
30 tinderbox runs than not having them.
31
32 If somebody took the time to systematically test my packages and the
33 biggest issue was that I had to fetch a URL, then I'd do them the
34 favor of fetching it and attaching the file myself, because I want to
35 know when my stuff breaks. I can't always fix every bug as quickly as
36 I'd like to, but I'm not going to just close them and stick my head in
37 the sand.
38
39 Why are we all here anyway? If we want to all play games I'm sure we
40 can make life miserable for each other, but frankly I'd rather spend
41 my time making my favorite distro better, and I can't imagine why else
42 anybody would be wasting their time reading my emails... :)
43
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45 Rich