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On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 20:55 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> The plan, which may be full of holes, may change and may just be me |
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> being crazy, is to replace using a stage with something like: |
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OK. So not only are you planning on replacing portage, you're planning |
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on replacing Release Engineering. Thanks, but we are not interested. |
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> paludis --config-suffix install --install system |
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> which will then go off and grab the relevant binary packages from a |
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> remote location and merge them onto ROOT. Being able to do something |
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> along these lines is a) one of several reasons for --config-suffix and |
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> b) a large part of why I don't want to use the Portage tbz2 format, |
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> where metadata and contents aren't separated. |
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Remote location, huh? What about non-networked installations? |
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> | > | #2. Can paludis build all of the release materials required by the |
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> | > | Release Engineering release guidelines? |
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> | > No. Nor will it ever, nor will it need to. |
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> | Will you then instead try to create new guidelines that do result |
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> | into development of releases? |
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> Assuming the above ends up not being insane, then yes. |
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Which would have to be accepted by the Release Engineering project. |
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Perhaps this point has been lost on you up until now. |
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> | > | #3. Can paludis build a portage-compatible VDB that can be used |
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> | > | by the Gentoo Linux Installer? |
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> | > No. Nor will it ever, nor will it need to. |
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> | Why will it not need to? Usage and support of paludis would be a lot |
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> | greater it it could work (with limited feature perhaps) on a portage |
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> | compatible VDB. You might work with the portage team to have portage |
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> | be aware of extensions in the VDB and handle them smartly (ignore |
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> | them?). At that point paludis could offer extra features while being |
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> | still portage compatible. |
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> I'm pretty sure it would be easier to just not use anything in the |
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> installer that relies upon VDB when using Paludis. The installer code |
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> is flexible enough to make this not tooooo tricky. |
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You mean like *all* of the GRP-handling code? |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Release Engineering - Strategic Lead |
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x86 Architecture Team |
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Games - Developer |
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Gentoo Linux |