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From: Greg KH <gregkh@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] contents of /dev after initial installation
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 04:47:14
Message-Id: 20051202044331.GA5732@kroah.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] contents of /dev after initial installation by Georgi Georgiev
1 On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 12:45:00PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote:
2 > maillog: 02/12/2005-02:47:55(+0000): Stephen Bennett types
3 > > On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:35:23 +0100
4 > > Matthias Langer <mlangc@×××.at> wrote:
5 > >
6 > > > revealed that there are in fact hundrets of premade device nodes in
7 > > > the /dev directory. And this is not only true for the box where i
8 > > > discovered this, which was brought up from a 2004.x cd, but also true
9 > > > for the box where i just installed gentoo from 2005.1-r1.
10 > > >
11 > > > Is there any reason for this ?
12 > >
13 > > Not all systems use udev or devfs. Plus, it's nice to be able to boot
14 > > the system when your dynamic /dev management fails for whatever reason.
15 >
16 > I don't need a fully populated /dev to get a working shell with
17 > init=/bin/bash on the kernel cmdline. And at that point it is easy to
18 > run /dev/MAKEDEV and get whatever devices are needed for
19 > troubleshooting.
20 >
21 > I of course assume that if the dynamic /dev management fails, then we
22 > need to *recover* instead of trying to get the system up as usual. And I
23 > also assume that the init scripts will anyway tell me "fatal error: give
24 > root password for maintenance or Ctrl-D to continue" if I have something
25 > vital missing from /dev.
26
27 If udev fails, and you have a completly empty /dev, you will not get any
28 console output at all for this type of message to be shown :(
29
30 So it's better to be safe than sorry.
31
32 That being said, my boxes have an empty /dev...
33
34 thanks,
35
36 greg k-h
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Re: [gentoo-dev] contents of /dev after initial installation Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>