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On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 12:34, Jeff Smelser wrote: |
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> > Is it 100% necessary to stay on the latest package? Was there a |
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> > security vulnerability fixed by the new version? If not, upgrading |
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> > simply because there is a newer version isn't always our top priority. |
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> > Often times, we are simply too busy to write a new ebuild, test the new |
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> > ebuild, and commit it for every version. In many cases we are |
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> > understaffed, even with our enormous developer base. |
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> You missed it. Both of these HAVE ebuilds.. Its just a matter of changing them |
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> over to x86 from ~x86. Thats my point, how hard can this be? |
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Well, editing the file and committing it to the tree is definitely the |
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easiest part. Have you bothered looking for bugs related to these |
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ebuilds in bugzilla? Perhaps there is something holding back the |
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ebuilds from being marked stable. Putting *any* ebuild in the stable |
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tree has far-reaching implications, and we want to be very sure that it |
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has the least amount of errors possible. |
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> Yes, Kde sent out a maintance release, and kdenetwork has the fix for the |
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> yahoo bug. |
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> > You have to remember that many of us are volunteers and are unable to |
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> > spend a large amount of time on Gentoo. We have jobs, families, and |
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> > other commitments than Gentoo. |
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> Your right. Read above, the time was spend already creating the ebuilds. AND, |
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> new ebuilds are being created but nothing is being moved to x86. Thats my |
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> issue. Not about when the ebuilds are created. |
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They get moved when the maintainers feel that they are tested enough. |
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Your "issue" is that things aren't moving fast enough for your liking, |
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and I've told you how to solve it. What you do from here is your |
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choice, but I can tell you that there's only one decision you can make |
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that'll affect Gentoo, and that is helping out. |
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> > With Gentoo, it really does hold true that if you want something done, |
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> > you should do it yourself. Create ebuilds. Post them to |
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> > bugs.gentoo.org. If you think a package has been in testing too long, |
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> > report not only on your failures, but also on your successes. Many |
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> > times packages will be delayed simply because there hasn't been enough |
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> > testing done, or the package simply gets forgotten about for a while. |
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> > We are a community-based distribution. For things to get done quickly, |
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> > we *require* the help of the community. |
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> Read above. And I do create ebuilds when I need them. And I have upgraded to |
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> the new kde. That doesn't change the fact that its a pain to stay in x86 when |
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> you manually have to upgrade things all the time since they sit in the ~x86 |
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> tree for months.. (in some cases) |
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Why are you in such a rush to upgrade? I'm just curious. |
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If you find something that is working, report it. Don't wait around |
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like a lump and then complain when we're not moving fast enough for your |
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tastes. |
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Most packages move to stable fairly quickly. Things like |
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Gnome/KDE/X/GCC/glibc usually take longer simply because *MUCH* more |
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testing needs to go into them due to the impact on our users. |
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> And don't give me emails about moving up to ~x86. Why have the two versions |
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> for a reason. if we are all gonna sit in ~x86, then why even go have it. |
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I wouldn't suggest moving up to ~arch, at all. I would suggest either |
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having some patience, or helping out. |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Release Engineering QA Manager/Games Developer |
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Gentoo Linux |
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