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From: "A.Waschbuesch" <awaschb@××××.de>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: possible trojan in openssh-3.4p1
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 07:30:50
Message-Id: aidt9t$7nf$1@main.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] possible trojan in openssh-3.4p1 by Johannes Findeisen
1 Johannes Findeisen wrote:
2
3 > On Thursday 01 August 2002 15:39, Rob Kaper wrote:
4 >> On Thursday 01 August 2002 15:35, Terje Kvernes wrote:
5 >> > if the checksum differ, which it would have, emerge will abort.
6 >> > although, emerge logs do sound like a very good idea.
7 >>
8 >> For optimum security, emerge should check checksums from different
9 >> locations. One or two trusted servers (often even the same as the one
10 >> where the files reside, although that might not be true for gentoo)
11 >> can be compromised too easily.
12 >
13 > if this should be a option in portage, we always need to download two
14 > files from two servers to check if the md5sum are the same... :-(
15 > IMO it is good as it is. the gentoo-core team are providing a md5sum
16 > in the portage tree and that should be enough.
17 >
18
19 Hi Johannes,
20
21 as far as the above suggestion made by Terje is concerned You're right.
22 Distributed checks could easily lead to "confusion", especially working
23 with mirrors. But MD5 alone IS a joke when it comes to _security_
24 (here: proof of origin/unmodified developer version). It's quite good
25 to check file corruption during data transfer. But that's it in my
26 eyes. If one wants secure "origin" checks there's the need for gpg
27 signing or something alike. Just using md5 someone who got write access
28 to a portage-server could easily regenerate the sum and paste it into
29 the ebuild including a modified SRC-URL.
30
31 OK. "Even" the OpenBSD devel core team didn't manage to integrate
32 private keys that way (maybe in general they're chaotic). One big
33 problem handling this would be/is/was the key availability for people
34 downloading files ... at least it's like that dealing with some of the
35 OBSD dev-staff ...
36
37 Andrew
38
39 --
40 Andreas Waschbuesch, GAUniversity KG MA FNZ FK01
41 eMail: awaschb@××××.de
42
43 Pete: Waiter, this meat is bad.
44 Waiter: Who told you?
45 Pete: A little swallow.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: possible trojan in openssh-3.4p1 Johannes Findeisen <you@×××××.org>