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On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:50:29 -0400 |
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> Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>> On 07/30/12 10:41, Michał Górny wrote: |
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>> > On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:35:36 -0400 |
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>> > Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>> >> On 07/27/12 16:16, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: |
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>> >>> |
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>> >>> No user will be happy with whatever we decide to use as a default. |
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>> >> |
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>> >> The defaults should be what's best for the most people, with a bias |
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>> >> towards safety. Why don't we just take a survey and choose the most |
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>> >> common utf8 response? |
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>> > How can you take a survey like that? How will you ensure it actually |
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>> > hits the majority? How will you define the majority? |
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>> Considering that the alternative is to force everyone to change it |
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>> manually, you can do it however you want and it'll be an improvement. |
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> My point here is that you want the thing to change. So you first try to |
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> convince people here to change. We practically did a small survey here |
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> and in the result we didn't agree on doing the change. |
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> So you're saying we should do another survey on another group, hoping |
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> that this time the result will be on your side. |
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>> 1) Create a webpage with a bunch of options, count the results |
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>> 2) Ask the g.o mailing lists, count responses manually |
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>> 3) Use google docs like the website survey that went out a few days |
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>> ago |
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>> It won't hit everyone, but no survey ever does. As long as you get a |
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>> large enough unbiased sample, it doesn't matter. And anything would be |
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>> an improvement, so it doesn't matter anyway. |
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> It depends on who the 'unbiased sample' is. Are you interested only in |
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> opinion of Gentoo users who visit the website? Who sync once a day? |
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> Once a week? Who follow Gentoo Planet? Who participate in the forums? |
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> We can create the survey and announce it everywhere. But it still won't |
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> catch many old-time Gentoo users who can actually have something |
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> opposite to say. It won't be unbiased. |
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I was thinking about this, and I suspect that a survey period of 1-2 |
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months is likely fine. It should also be enough to scoop up people who |
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run servers and monitor those servers for security updates. |
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:wq |