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From: Michael Cummings <mcummings@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:23:34
Message-Id: 1141334398.9538.5.camel@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2 by Ciaran McCreesh
1 On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 20:49 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2 > Now, you've heard that dropping keywords is bad. But you have a clever
3 > idea, and make the dep alsa? ( !sparc? ( alsa libraries ) ). This gets
4 > past repoman just fine.
5 >
6
7 <STOP> As any arch can tell you, that's never stopped me - *IF* you do
8 it correctly, ie comment out the existing keywords, add the keywords
9 that the package can support, and file a bug against the arch's that you
10 had to drop explaining the need for re-keywording because of a new dep
11 that they don't yet support. AFAIK that's the correct way to do it - and
12 I believe that pretty strongly since at this point there isn't a single
13 arch that wouldn't have filed a grievance against me otherwise. Sure,
14 those bugs may stay open for months and months and months because ia64
15 doesn't have the resources to devote (which is understood), but at that
16 point you have 2 references for users, the ebuild with the commented out
17 line, the ChangeLog, and the bug.
18
19 Is this not how its supposed to be done? Because if it is, maybe those
20 insistant on the !arch method should be pointed to that and leave it up
21 to the arch's to make the decision of whether to keyword or disable
22 specific support. Devs acting on behalf of a herd shouldn't be making
23 these kind of arch decisions, but instead leaving it up to devs acting
24 with their arch hats on. Maybe the two meet under the same roof
25 sometimes, but more times than not they don't. Yep, that's a lot more
26 work and effort and pain - but afaik it follows good qa methods.
27
28 And despite the length of this message, I haven't spoken on one side of
29 the fence or the other I think...sweet :)
30
31 ~mcummings

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Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2 Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2 Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>