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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 20:26:22
Message-Id: 20130724222235.52e3ccd0@TOMWIJ-GENTOO
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change by Peter Stuge
1 On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:01:30 +0200
2 Peter Stuge <peter@×××××.se> wrote:
3
4 > I am suggesting that the latest available upstream kernel should
5 > perhaps be the default for Gentoo users.
6
7 See my previous e-mail; if you're willing to go through with this
8 suggestion, then please back that up with sufficient reasoning. That
9 is, state what is bad with gentoo-sources and state the advantages that
10 would come with vanilla-sources; but don't forget to document the
11 disadvantages as well, since there is no magic silver bullet here.
12
13 Would you upgrade more than hundreds to thousands of servers to 3.10.0?
14
15 Take a look at the whole picture; for example, Nouveau worked great in
16 late 3.6 and regressed over a lot of people in early 3.7, so they had
17 to wait for fixes to land in late 3.7 again. Another example? Here:
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19 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468078#c0
20
21 And there thousands of bugs to find on all the bug trackers out there
22 that share this kind of nature; so, this is why you can't simple mark
23 what upstream deems stable, but rather what our QA process deems stable.
24
25 Changing that QA process doesn't happen from one day onto the other; it
26 has to be carefully thought out, documented, planned and announced.
27
28 If not, it could affect Gentoo's image.
29
30 --
31 With kind regards,
32
33 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
34 Gentoo Developer
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