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> El vie, 05-03-2010 a las 19:03 +0100, Dawid Węgliński escribió: |
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>> On Friday 05 March 2010 17:12:23 Roy Bamford wrote: |
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>>> That's not a new install as per the handbook. Neither are you a new |
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>>> user as you have a premade make.conf and world file and some experience |
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>>> with Gentoo. |
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>>> Put yourself in the place of a brand new Gentoo user doing his/her |
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>>> first install. |
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>>> It needs to just work out of the box, one way or another, without |
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>>> forums posts or calls for help in #gentoo about circular dependences. |
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>>> That's not just cups - thats all circular dependencies. |
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>> Brand new gentoo user goes throu handbook -> reads "set up USE variables in |
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>> make.conf" and does it according to his/her needs following use.*.desc. If |
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>> gentoo was new to me i *would* enter cups as i use printers often at work. |
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> +1 |
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> I did it (I mean, add some commonly used USE flags) in all my Gentoo |
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> installations, and I would add "cups" for sure (since printing is used |
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> every day in most machines I use and administrate). |
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> Leio pointed some messages ago about the possibility of splitting some |
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> poppler parts to fix this circular dep issue, what is the problem with |
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> that option? The suggestion is not about splitting every poppler part in |
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> tons of ebuilds, but simply split poppler in the minimum needed to fix |
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> this problem (sorry if I missed the reply, I haven't followed discussion |
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> too deeply :-( ) |
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> Thanks and best regards |
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This is what I am saying. *IF* cups were some little known or obscure |
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USE flag, one could make the argument that it would not be set until |
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later on. I started with Gentoo over 6 years ago. I had only used |
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anything Linux for a few months. I knew what cups was. Even tho I was |
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new to Linux when I first installed Mandrake, I knew I had a printer. |
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It was a old used one at the time but I still had a printer. I wanted |
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that printer to work. Mandrake picked that up for me, Gentoo is not |
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that way. I have to pick that up, not the OS. |
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I am also saying that this needs a long term fix. I'm thinking a long |
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term fix like happened with the blocks issue. If in the short term this |
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USE flag ha to be removed, then fine. It's doesn't really fix anything |
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is my opinion. If a user turns that flag on as is in the docs, the |
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problem is still there. This is why we need a long term fix. This may |
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take a good while, months, year, who knows. This just should not be |
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called "fixed" when the problem is still there. Please don't just |
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remove the USE flag and forget the reason it happened. This is Gentoo. |
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I'm proud to tell people I use it. I want it to stay on top of the pile |
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not fall to the bottom. |
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Dale |
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:-) :-) |