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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: kensington@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:21:24
Message-Id: 20140726212114.682e7809@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps by Michael Palimaka
1 On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 03:12:07 +1000
2 Michael Palimaka <kensington@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > On 07/26/2014 07:59 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
5 > > On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:14:41 +1000
6 > > Michael Palimaka <kensington@g.o> wrote:
7 > >
8 > >> On 07/23/2014 09:36 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
9 > >>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:21:00 +1000
10 > >>> Michael Palimaka <kensington@g.o> wrote:
11 > >>>
12 > >>>> What a great way to kill the distro.
13 > >>>>
14 > >>>> I can already heat my house with the number of unnecessary
15 > >>>> rebuilds
16 > >>>
17 > >>> Do you upgrade @world every hour and thus have it cause excessive
18 > >>> heat?
19 > >>>
20 > >>> If I upgrade every X weeks they become much more cool and
21 > >>> necessary...
22 > >>>
23 > >>
24 > >> Shouldn't we strive to avoid the unnecessary rebuilds in the first
25 > >> place? Doing updates on your schedule only avoids the symptom, not
26 > >> the problem.
27 > >
28 > > We should strive to do both; cause less rebuilds, update less often.
29 > >
30 > > It is comparable to flooding on IRC channels; if you send much more
31 > > messages, you are much more likely to experience a kick and/or a
32 > > ban.
33 > >
34 > > It is easier not to flood than to convince people there is no
35 > > problem with you flooding the channel; out of all the IRC channels
36 > > I know of, I've only come across one where they don't mind pasted
37 > > long code blocks but that's mostly because of the lack of active
38 > > moderation and people.
39 > >
40 > > (With "flooding" as "updating" and "kick/ban" as "rebuilds")
41 > >
42 > Each person should update at a frequency that suits them. Recommending
43 > to update every $period is not a valid solution to unnecessary
44 > rebuilds.
45
46 The more one floods, the more one accepts kicks and/or bans; expected.
47
48 --
49 With kind regards,
50
51 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
52 Gentoo Developer
53
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