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From: John Nilsson <john@×××××××.nu>
To: Spider <spider@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] CVS and non-devs (again!)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:05:42
Message-Id: 1074841544.21773.8.camel@newkid.milsson.nu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] CVS and non-devs (again!) by Spider
1 Ok, this thread may be a waste of time but still...
2
3 Portage could "taint" packages that is installed with unsupported or
4 tainted packages as dependencies. Have portage give a warning about
5 tainted packages.
6
7 This way a user could easily resolve these kind of problem without
8 submiting a bugreport.
9
10 This paricular kind of issue is verry common on my machine, and the main
11 reason I DON'T submit bugreports.
12
13 Just a ~x86 package here and there and strange errors emerge.
14
15 /John
16
17 On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 21:58, Spider wrote:
18 > begin quote
19 > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:34:05 +0100
20 > John Nilsson <john@×××××××.nu> wrote:
21 >
22 > > I do belive that the issue tracking system is flawed if these kind of
23 > > bug-reports is a problem though...
24 > > If all bugs was attached to a specific ebuild, this wouldn't be
25 > > problem would it?
26 >
27 >
28 > *cough*
29 >
30 > No. It would be an even worse problem.
31 >
32 > take a bug like this :
33 > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38835
34 >
35 > in this case it was simple to detect, just for me to check out the
36 > latest tree, scan versions and compare to information given.
37 >
38 > However, as seen here, its not an easy thing for users to know what
39 > causes a problem, if it is a library subdependency or something else.
40 > This is even worse when some testing library breaks interfaces, and then
41 > they install it, together with the updated development set that matches,
42 > and then -downgrade- again, however, parts are still linking to the old
43 > one, using the new interface, that one is rebuilt afterwards, and you
44 > are left with library mismatch and symbol relocation errors because of
45 > the changing interfaces.
46 >
47 > Yes, I've tried to debug such cases for users, who technically are
48 > correct, they don't have any "development" stuff installed anymore.
49 > That doesn't matter, their system is still borked when it comes to that
50 > library and all things inheriting. Causing developers a real pain.
51 >
52 >
53 > So, attaching all bugs to the single place of failure wíll obscure
54 > matters even worse. inviting people to a testing/bleeding edge tree
55 > managed by users will give us a severe headache.
56 >
57 >
58 > //Spider

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Re: [gentoo-dev] CVS and non-devs (again!) Andrew Cowie <andrew@×××××××××××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-dev] CVS and non-devs (again!) Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>