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Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> said: |
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> On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:19:49 +0300 |
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> Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o> wrote: |
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> > We surely need more developers. Otherwise we ll end up maintaining |
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> > 100<x<500 each one. Just look at the numbers ( total packages/total |
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> > ACTIVE developers ). So first we need to attract more people. |
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> > Evaluation and recruitment comes next |
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> I have a better way of improving those numbers: remove two thirds of |
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> the packages from the main tree. |
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to me, the above two contradictory viewpoints are the essence of the |
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apparent and real decline in Gentoo activity. The two are just not |
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compatible with each other and there is no clear guidance on to which of |
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the two should be followed. |
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in the one corner we have the 'Daniel Robbins' corner, which stands for an |
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open and inclusive process, which favors new comers, wants fast progress |
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regardsless of the technical limitations of that process. also, being nice |
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is more important than being correct. one central repository is where all |
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development should happen - this is were we came from. |
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in the other corner is the gentoo leftover of the exherbo fork: the few |
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people how continue to work on Gentoo but generally prefer the direction |
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of Exherbo. technical elitism, explicitism and formal standardization are |
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their trade. being correct is more important than good intentions. |
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overlays or multiple repositories help achieve a hierarchy of not-good-to- |
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supported ebuilds. we are halfway here... |
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it would be good if we collectively could agree on some of these issues, |
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in order to move forward. as with many of the other technical discussions |
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which lead to nowhere, it's more important that there is a clear |
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direction, than into which direction we are headed. |
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maybe we need a debian project leader position - or a council, which is |
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sensitive to the internal devide among developers and gives clear |
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directions. |
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if the above offends you, please take a walk before replying. it may sound |
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inflammtory - its not meant to be. |
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thanks |
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Thilo |
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