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From: Steve Long <slong@××××××××××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:10:18
Message-Id: ev2ts5$n1c$1@sea.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April by Ciaran McCreesh
1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2 > Unfortunately, what the GLEP doesn't do is prevent the Council from
3 > having secret meetings and refusing to discuss not only the content of
4 > those meetings but even the topic. Perhaps a requirement that any
5 > Council meeting logs be made public would be useful, with a waiver
6 > that the Council can have a secret meeting if it officially announces
7 > that it is doing so?
8 >
9 This is getting silly; a secret meeting which is officially announced?
10
11 You cannot stop people from talking amongst themselves. It doesn't work and
12 it's counter-productive. Consulting a PR in recent times was a smart move,
13 and not one that can be done in the public glare, akin to a discussion with
14 an attorney. I for one am glad the Council did it, and gladder still that
15 it was in confidence.
16
17 I have no interest in knowing all the ins and outs, so long as there are
18 people there who _will_ sort out issues which have to be dealt with. In my
19 estimation, there are a good set of dedicated individuals who truly care
20 about gentoo. I might not agree with everything they do or say; so what?
21 They provide the best distro out there, and contrary to your allegations,
22 for a user it's better and more stable than ever.
23
24 Comparing binary package managers to a source-based one is facile imo. RH or
25 Ubuntu can do what they want: the competition for gentoo is basically
26 sourcemage. There are loads of gentoo users who have never had to reinstall
27 in several years of use. That simply doesn't happen with the `competition'
28 which you cite.
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30 It seems like gentoo is going from a cottage-industry to a medium-size
31 organisation. People can work for the same organisation, sharing the same
32 general ideals, but with completely different approaches; they just work on
33 different teams. imo that's a good thing, so long as all acknowledge that
34 there is a _collective_ goal, which no individual could achieve, and agreed
35 standards of behaviour are upheld.
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