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On 24 Jul 2004, at 22:54, Joshua Brindle wrote: |
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> also sys-darwin and app-macos, I never saw these categories come |
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> across the list for approval (though I might have missed it since I |
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> don't care about macos at all). Were these approved? If not they |
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> should be removed asap, I can't see any justification for making new |
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> categories for these programs (but as I already said I'd prefer this |
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> stuff not be in portage at all). |
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We discussed the proposal on the ml and in the first roadmap meeting, |
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which was announced on core. The empty directories were created well in |
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advance (with .keep files explaining the reasoning behind them in the |
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cvs log) to allow developers to react and make suggestions about it. |
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The reasoning behind both: |
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- app-macos contains apps that do not depend on anything but a regular |
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mac os x system. A good example of such an app is the GPL'ed OS X |
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Desktop Manager which implements virtual desktops on OS X. |
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http://wsmanager.sourceforge.net/index.php Most of the time these |
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packages are Mac OS X only, open source and don't fit any other |
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category. Ebuilds for the popular Mac OS X Tiger widgets, (Tiny |
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applications like a calculator, a stock ticker, ...) Mac OS X icon |
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sets, ... Maybe also our own (probably cocoa) portage GUI, but that |
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would fit app-portage. (of course open for discussion) Things like |
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popular Mac OS X only IM clients can of course be fitted in net-im etc. |
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- sys-darwin contains ebuilds for software that is very very darwin |
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(mostly kerneldriver) specific. I was thinking of things like (just a |
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quick cut/paste): |
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sys-darwin/IOADBFamily-2 |
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sys-darwin/IOATABlockStorage-130.3.1 |
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sys-darwin/IOATAFamily-155.3.1 |
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sys-darwin/IOATAPIProtocolTransport-130.0.2 |
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sys-darwin/IOAudioFamily-140.2.9 |
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sys-darwin/IOCDStorageFamily-25 |
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sys-darwin/IODVDStorageFamily-14 |
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sys-darwin/IOFWDVComponents-153.4.1 |
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sys-darwin/IOFireWireAVC-152.4.1 |
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sys-darwin/IOFireWireFamily-170.4.0 |
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sys-darwin/IOFireWireIP-120.4.0 |
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sys-darwin/IOFireWireSBP2-151.4.0 |
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sys-darwin/IOFireWireSerialBusProtocolTransport-130.2.7 |
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sys-darwin/IOGraphics-123 |
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sys-darwin/IOHIDFamily-86 |
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sys-darwin/IOKitTools-38 |
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sys-darwin/IOKitUser-174 |
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sys-darwin/IONetworkingFamily-15 |
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sys-darwin/IOPCCardFamily-38 |
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sys-darwin/IOPCIFamily-21 |
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sys-darwin/IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily-130.3.8 |
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sys-darwin/IOSCSIParallelFamily-130.3.1 |
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sys-darwin/IOSerialFamily-20 |
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sys-darwin/IOStorageFamily-44.1 |
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sys-darwin/IOUSBFamily-205.3.5 |
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sys-darwin/IOUSBMassStorageClass-130.2.1 |
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sys-darwin/KeyLargoATA-110.3.1 |
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Anyway, this stuff is obviously open for discussion, just like |
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everything else I did/do/am going to do. |
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I created both empty directories a week or two ago, because I figured |
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if somebody didn't like them he would bring them up on the ml and have |
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them renamed to something even better if needed. At the time I thought |
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they were kosher. Nothing to have nightmares about. (I hope) |
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Suggestions welcome of course. |
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Best regards, |
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Pieter Van den Abeele |
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> Joshua Brindle |
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> Pieter Van den Abeele wrote: |
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>> Hi, |
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>> There are two types of Gentoo MacOS users: There is the user who |
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>> wants to extend his Mac OS X system with packages that didn't came |
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>> pre-installed (like tetex, kde, mysql, prolog, ,... ) Then there's |
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>> the user who wants to use Gentoo to rebuild parts of his Mac OS X |
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>> operating system (a new kernel, python with readline support, ...) or |
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>> just build a Darwin system from scratch without the fancy Apple |
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>> stuff. |
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>> Several devs work on making Gentoo MacOS work for both users. |
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>> Everything happens in parallel. |
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>> Why does repoman/linux think the dependency graph for macos is |
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>> broken? Developers that work for users of the first type, keyword |
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>> packages against a virtual base system. The entire base system (all |
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>> packages provided by apple) is injected into the depgraph and locked |
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>> down by a profile. A user cannot upgrade or downgrade Apple provided |
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>> stuff, unless the user really insists on doing so. Repoman on linux |
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>> complains about broken macos depgraph because the macos base system |
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>> obviously isn't injected into the depgraph under linux. |
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>> There are some ways to make repoman not complain about macos: |
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>> 1. make repoman not do macos QA under linux |
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>> Since repoman doesn't complain about macos under macos (it must be |
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>> broken or somehow take into account injected packages when doing |
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>> --emptytree), I prefer this option. It's also the least amount of |
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>> work. |
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>> 2. make repoman macos aware |
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>> This requires new portage features. Adding another file to the |
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>> profiles, I can think of at least 2 portage feature requests that |
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>> require adding another file to the profiles, so this can't be a short |
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>> term solution. |
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>> Opened a bug about persistent injected packages. (Also needed to make |
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>> --emptytree work on macos, since --emptytree also removes the |
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>> injected base system). |
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>> 3. add empty ebuilds keyworded "-* macos" for everything that gets |
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>> injected. |
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>> Requires 300 empty ebuilds to be added for each macos profile. This |
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>> is a hack around a portage bug that prevents a package from being |
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>> purely virtual. There needs to be at least an empty ebuild. |
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>> The problem with the workaround is that if a linux user uses the |
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>> 'ignore keywords' syntax: emerge ./macos.ebuild that will break their |
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>> system. |
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>> 4. change every ebuild that depends on the macos base system by |
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>> making the base system dependencies conditional. |
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>> How many ebuilds depend on 300 ebuilds? How many dependencies need to |
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>> be changed per ebuild? What about base system evolution? |
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>> Best regards, |
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>> Pieter Van den Abeele |
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>> On 24 Jul 2004, at 13:34, Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote: |
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>>> The repoman output generated from the macos keywording is getting |
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>>> out of hand. |
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>>> Something needs to be done to address this soon: |
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>>> |
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>>> app-admin/makepasswd/makepasswd-1.10.ebuild: macos ['dev-lang/perl'] |
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>>> app-admin/passook/passook-1.0.0.ebuild: macos ['sys-apps/grep', |
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>>> 'sys-apps/miscfiles', 'dev-lang/perl'] |
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>>> app-admin/passook/passook-1.0.0.ebuild: macos ['sys-apps/grep', |
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>>> 'sys-apps/miscfiles', 'sys-devel/patch', 'dev-lang/perl'] |
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>>> app-editors/nano/nano-1.3.3-r1.ebuild: macos ['sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> app-emacs/apel/apel-10.6.ebuild: macos ['app-editors/emacs'] |
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>>> app-emacs/flim/flim-1.14.6.ebuild: macos ['app-editors/emacs'] |
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>>> app-emacs/limit/limit-1.14.8_pre20040415.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['app-editors/emacs'] |
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>>> app-emacs/riece/riece-1.0.1.ebuild: macos ['app-editors/emacs'] |
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>>> app-emacs/semi/semi-1.14.6.ebuild: macos ['app-editors/emacs'] |
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>>> app-emacs/wanderlust/wanderlust-2.10.1-r2.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['app-editors/emacs', 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> app-emacs/wanderlust/wanderlust-2.10.1-r2.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['app-editors/emacs'] |
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>>> app-emacs/wanderlust/wanderlust-2.11.30_pre20040618.ebuild: ~macos |
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>>> ['app-editors/emacs'] |
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>>> app-i18n/skk-jisyo/skk-jisyo-200407.ebuild: macos ['app-arch/gzip'] |
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>>> app-portage/gentoolkit-dev/gentoolkit-dev-0.2.0_pre3.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=dev-lang/python-2.0', '>=sys-apps/grep-2.4', |
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>>> '>=sys-apps/portage-2.0.50', '>=dev-lang/perl-5.6'] |
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>>> app-portage/gentoolkit/gentoolkit-0.2.0_pre8.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=dev-lang/python-2.0', '>=sys-apps/grep-2.4', |
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>>> '>=sys-apps/portage-2.0.50', '>=dev-lang/perl-5.6'] |
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>>> app-portage/splat/splat-0.08.ebuild: macos ['dev-lang/perl'] |
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>>> app-text/dos2unix/dos2unix-3.1.ebuild: macos ['sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> app-text/htmltidy/htmltidy-3.10.29.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=sys-devel/autoconf-2.5', '>=sys-devel/automake-1.5', |
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>>> 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> app-text/migemo/migemo-0.40-r1.ebuild: macos ['dev-lang/ruby', |
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>>> 'app-editors/emacs'] app-text/migemo/migemo-0.40-r1.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['dev-lang/ruby'] |
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>>> app-text/unix2dos/unix2dos-2.2.ebuild: macos ['sys-devel/patch', |
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>>> 'sys-devel/gcc'] |
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>>> dev-lang/swi-prolog-lite/swi-prolog-lite-5.3.14.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['sys-apps/sed', 'sys-apps/gawk'] |
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>>> dev-libs/glib/glib-2.4.4.ebuild: ~macos ['sys-devel/libtool'] |
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>>> dev-python/readline/readline-2.3.3.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=dev-lang/python-2.3.3'] |
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>>> dev-ruby/ruby-bsearch/ruby-bsearch-1.5-r1.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['dev-lang/ruby', 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> dev-ruby/ruby-bsearch/ruby-bsearch-1.5-r1.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['dev-lang/ruby'] |
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>>> dev-ruby/ruby-romkan/ruby-romkan-0.4-r1.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['dev-lang/ruby', 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> dev-ruby/ruby-romkan/ruby-romkan-0.4-r1.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['dev-lang/ruby'] |
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>>> dev-util/dialog/dialog-0.9_beta20031207.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=app-shells/bash-2.04-r3', 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> dev-util/dialog/dialog-0.9_beta20031207.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=app-shells/bash-2.04-r3'] |
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>>> mail-client/mutt/mutt-1.5.6-r2.ebuild: macos ['sys-devel/automake', |
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>>> 'sys-devel/autoconf', 'sys-libs/gdbm', 'sys-devel/patch', |
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>>> '>=dev-libs/openssl-0.9.6'] |
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>>> media-libs/audiofile/audiofile-0.2.6-r1.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['sys-devel/libtool', 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> media-libs/freetype/freetype-2.1.5-r1.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['sys-libs/zlib', 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> media-libs/freetype/freetype-2.1.5-r1.ebuild: macos ['sys-libs/zlib'] |
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>>> media-libs/freetype/freetype-2.1.5.ebuild: macos ['sys-libs/zlib', |
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>>> 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> media-libs/freetype/freetype-2.1.5.ebuild: macos ['sys-libs/zlib'] |
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>>> media-libs/libid3tag/libid3tag-0.15.1b.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=sys-libs/zlib-1.1.3'] |
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>>> media-libs/libpng/libpng-1.2.5-r7.ebuild: macos ['sys-libs/zlib', |
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>>> 'sys-devel/patch', 'sys-devel/gcc'] |
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>>> media-libs/libpng/libpng-1.2.5-r7.ebuild: macos ['sys-libs/zlib'] |
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>>> media-sound/esound/esound-0.2.34.ebuild: ~macos |
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>>> ['>=sys-apps/tcp-wrappers-7.6-r2', '>=media-libs/alsa-lib-0.5.10b'] |
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>>> media-sound/esound/esound-0.2.34.ebuild: ~macos |
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>>> ['sys-devel/libtool', '>=sys-apps/tcp-wrappers-7.6-r2', |
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>>> '>=media-libs/alsa-lib-0.5.10b', 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> media-sound/lame/lame-3.96.ebuild: macos ['=x11-libs/gtk+-1.2*', |
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>>> 'sys-devel/patch', 'sys-devel/gcc'] |
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>>> media-sound/lame/lame-3.96.ebuild: macos ['=x11-libs/gtk+-1.2*'] |
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>>> media-sound/madplay/madplay-0.15.2b.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['media-sound/esound'] |
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>>> net-analyzer/darkstat/darkstat-2.6-r1.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=net-libs/libpcap-0.7.1', 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> net-analyzer/netperf/netperf-2.2.4.ebuild: macos ['>=sys-apps/sed-4'] |
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>>> net-libs/libwww/libwww-5.4.0-r2.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=dev-libs/openssl-0.9.6', 'dev-lang/perl', |
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>>> '>=sys-devel/autoconf-2.13', 'sys-devel/patch', |
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>>> '>=sys-libs/zlib-1.1.4', '>=dev-db/mysql-3.23.26'] |
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>>> net-libs/libwww/libwww-5.4.0-r2.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=sys-libs/zlib-1.1.4', '>=dev-db/mysql-3.23.26', |
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>>> '>=dev-libs/openssl-0.9.6', 'dev-lang/perl'] |
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>>> net-misc/wget/wget-1.9.1-r2.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=dev-libs/openssl-0.9.6b'] |
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>>> net-misc/wget/wget-1.9.1-r2.ebuild: macos ['sys-devel/autoconf', |
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>>> 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> net-www/links/links-2.1_pre15.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=dev-libs/openssl-0.9.6c', '>=media-libs/svgalib-1.4.3', |
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>>> 'sys-libs/gpm', '>=media-libs/tiff-3.5.7', 'sys-libs/zlib', |
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>>> 'sys-darwin/X11', '>=sys-devel/flex-2.5.4a', '>=media-libs/jpeg-6b', |
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>>> 'dev-libs/DirectFB'] |
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>>> net-www/links/links-2.1_pre15.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=dev-libs/openssl-0.9.6c', '>=media-libs/svgalib-1.4.3', |
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>>> 'sys-libs/gpm', '>=media-libs/tiff-3.5.7', 'sys-libs/zlib', |
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>>> 'sys-darwin/X11', 'sys-devel/automake', '>=sys-devel/flex-2.5.4a', |
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>>> '>=media-libs/jpeg-6b', 'dev-libs/DirectFB', 'sys-devel/autoconf', |
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>>> 'sys-devel/gcc'] |
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>>> net-www/lynx/lynx-2.8.5.ebuild: macos ['>=sys-libs/zlib-1.1.3', |
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>>> '>=dev-libs/openssl-0.9.6'] |
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>>> sys-devel/gettext/gettext-0.12.1-r1.ebuild: macos ['sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> sys-devel/gnuconfig/gnuconfig-20040214.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> sys-libs/readline/readline-4.3-r6.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=app-shells/bash-2.05b-r2', 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> sys-libs/readline/readline-4.3-r6.ebuild: macos |
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>>> ['>=app-shells/bash-2.05b-r2'] |
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>>> x11-wm/fluxbox/fluxbox-0.9.9.ebuild: macos ['sys-darwin/X11', |
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>>> '>=sys-devel/autoconf-2.52', 'sys-devel/patch'] |
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>>> x11-wm/fluxbox/fluxbox-0.9.9.ebuild: macos ['sys-darwin/X11'] |
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>>> Michael Sterrett |
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>>> -Mr. Bones.- |
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>>> mr_bones_@g.o |
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>>> -- |
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