Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June

[Alec Warner]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Luca Barbato <lu_zero@g.o> wrote:
> Doug Goldstein wrote:
>>
>> Doug Goldstein wrote:
>>>
>>> Brian Harring wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 03:06:17AM +0000, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is your one-day friendly reminder !  The monthly Gentoo Council
>>>>> meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net.  See the
>>>>> channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC).
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're supposed to show up, please show up.  If you're not supposed
>>>>> to show up, then show up anyways and watch your Council monkeys dance
>>>>> for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
>>>>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reiterating the early request, I'd like the council to please discuss
>>>> the current status of PMS, if the running of it satisfys the councils
>>>> requirements of a *neutral* standard, if the proposed spec actually meets
>>>> said standards, and if said spec is actually going to be approved sometimes
>>>> this side of '09.
>>>>
>>>> Effectively, we've watched it essentially progress into a standard that
>>>> effectively only the paludis folk are adherent to (if in doubt, ask portage
>>>> folk, my sending this mail is indicative of the pkgcore standpoint)- it's
>>>> about time the council comment upon it in light of the general view.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, ciaran shall comment.  My request still stands.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> ~harring
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'd honestly like to see an official PMS project page i.e.
>>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pms/
>>>
>>> On this page it'd be nice if there was an official link to the current
>>> PMS instead of having to rely on grabbing it from random locations i.e.
>>> d.g.o/~coldwind/ or d.g.o/~spb/
>>
>> Allow me to clarify a bit more. I'd like to see a collaborative website
>> that developers for all actively maintained package managers can contribute
>> to and update providing details about compatibility and implementation of
>> the PMS and future additions or revisions of the PMS that will be put forth
>> before the Gentoo Council.
>
> I agree with Cardoe, the specification should be made as useful as possible
> to the package maintainers, as accessible as possible by every interested
> party and possibly have a regression/conformance test built in (such a small
> tree with dummy ebuilds and eclasses) to allow automated validation.
> Stronger and well defined versioning should help as well.

I believe the biggest problem with this list is you have a long list
of wants but seem to not want to do
any of the work yourself.  For the folks making the requests; are you
working on doing any of them yourself?

Otherwise your suggestions are mere recommendations at best.

-Alec

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