Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP #10 -- Proposal for restructuring the CVS regarding documentation wrt internationalization proposal

[Svyatogor]

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:45:17 -0400
Kurt Lieber <klieber@g.o> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 08:31:08PM +0200 or thereabouts, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0010.html
>
> > All feedback appreciated, especially from the infrastructure folks as it is
> > mainly infrastructure related.
>
> OK, so I finally had a chance to review and think about this GLEP.  Below
> are some questions/comments that I have.
>
> 1) I'd like Robin (robbat2) to comment on this since the primary reason for
> the GLEP seems to be better control over CVS permissions.  I know Robin has
> some ideas on how he wants to change CVS permissions, so his feedback here
> is important. (cc'd on this email)
Primary reason depends very much on you point of view. For me primary reason is 
higher level of i18n efforts, including $LANG.gentoo.org

>
> 2) One thing that isn't clear in the GLEP.  Is
> http://www.gentoo.org/${LANGUAGE} an *exact* copy of
> http://www.gentoo.org/en/?  Or are the internationalization teams allowed
> to change things?  For the most part, I would like to ensure that we have
> one, consistent web site, so I'd like to see translations happening, but
> not alternate content per se.
>
> You touch a bit upon this in the "Internationalized Website" but I'm still
> not clear on how it works, so some clarification would be appreciated.

This has been discussed. I believe that many translators (including FRLinux 
and me) have agreed that pure internationalization is prety much useless. I.e.
the $LANG.gentoo.org should contain not only translated items from the main page
but also any news related to their community. 

As you mentioned correctly we are trying to achieve two diff goals internationalization
and support of communities (localization). I feel that Gentoo management does not
fully understand the importance of the second goal. As Gentoo is getting more and more
popular, more communities arrise everywhere. The $LANG.gentoo.org pages have a very good
chance of becoming the leading community pages, the ones which provide the official info.
Otherwise various pages will be created elsewhere and we will not have any effect over them
and over the info they provide. 

Being an international user myself, I know how important it is to have such local support 
strcture and think that we should not miss the chance to implement.


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