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On Saturday, May 31, 2014 02:17:32 PM Samuli Suominen wrote: |
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> On 31/05/14 05:47, Steven J. Long wrote: |
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> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 09:57:01AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: |
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> >> On 27/05/14 08:34, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> >>> Dnia 2014-05-26, o godz. 23:15:34 |
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> >>> |
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> >>> Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o> napisał(a): |
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> >>>> UPower upstream removed sys-power/pm-utils support from 0.99 release |
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> >>>> (currently unkeyworded in tree), as in, from current git master. |
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> >>> |
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> >>> Don't worry. Looking at the past, I can guess this is only a temporary |
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> >>> inconvenience. I'm pretty sure upower will be discontinued soon |
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> >>> and replaced with systemd-powerd or something :D. |
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> >> |
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> >> That's more or less what they already did, they forced eg. |
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> >> xfce4-power-manager upstream |
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> >> to move the deleted pm-utils code from upower directly to the power |
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> >> manager (application) |
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> >> itself, likewise for xfce4-session |
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> >> Which means applications will now need to duplicate the pm-utils related |
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> >> code per application |
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> >> basis |
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> >> So I expect upower to be more or less dead for everything but systemd |
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> >> users, except for |
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> >> those upstreams that will actually follow the Xfce path and do the |
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> >> duplication |
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> >> Yet, still, small portition of the code is still 'generic', so |
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> >> xfce4-power-manager will still need |
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> >> both, upower, even 0.99, and then pm-utils, depending on the version, |
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> >> codepath is selected |
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> >> |
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> >> This was sort of expected, since pm-utils has been abandoned for ~5 |
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> >> years now at upstream, |
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> >> so nobody is maintaining non-systemd related power management tools |
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> >> anymore, and |
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> >> falling back to eg. manual laptop-mode-tools, acpid, etc. usage will be |
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> >> necessary again, |
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> >> it's like going back to 90s for non-systemd users :P |
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> > |
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> > I can't believe I'm reading that from a distro-developer. Basically this |
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> > entire thread is "systemd is deprecating the existing tools, so let's dump |
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> > them and half our userbase back to the 90s, isn't that a great thing?" |
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> |
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> Then you misunderstood. Notice the ":P" as an indicator of sarcasm. |
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> I've already created sys-power/upower-pm-utils where the sys-power/pm-utils |
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> 0.9 git branch will continue to live. |
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Would have been nice to fix all the dependencies BEFORE marking the systemd- |
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depending "sys-power/upower-pm-utils" stable. |
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