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From: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 11:19:46
Message-Id: 5389BA4C.8040106@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore by "Steven J. Long"
1 On 31/05/14 05:47, Steven J. Long wrote:
2 > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 09:57:01AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
3 >> On 27/05/14 08:34, Michał Górny wrote:
4 >>> Dnia 2014-05-26, o godz. 23:15:34
5 >>> Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o> napisał(a):
6 >>>
7 >>>> UPower upstream removed sys-power/pm-utils support from 0.99 release
8 >>>> (currently unkeyworded in tree), as in, from current git master.
9 >>> Don't worry. Looking at the past, I can guess this is only a temporary
10 >>> inconvenience. I'm pretty sure upower will be discontinued soon
11 >>> and replaced with systemd-powerd or something :D.
12 >>>
13 >> That's more or less what they already did, they forced eg.
14 >> xfce4-power-manager upstream
15 >> to move the deleted pm-utils code from upower directly to the power
16 >> manager (application)
17 >> itself, likewise for xfce4-session
18 >> Which means applications will now need to duplicate the pm-utils related
19 >> code per application
20 >> basis
21 >> So I expect upower to be more or less dead for everything but systemd
22 >> users, except for
23 >> those upstreams that will actually follow the Xfce path and do the
24 >> duplication
25 >> Yet, still, small portition of the code is still 'generic', so
26 >> xfce4-power-manager will still need
27 >> both, upower, even 0.99, and then pm-utils, depending on the version,
28 >> codepath is selected
29 >>
30 >> This was sort of expected, since pm-utils has been abandoned for ~5
31 >> years now at upstream,
32 >> so nobody is maintaining non-systemd related power management tools
33 >> anymore, and
34 >> falling back to eg. manual laptop-mode-tools, acpid, etc. usage will be
35 >> necessary again,
36 >> it's like going back to 90s for non-systemd users :P
37 > I can't believe I'm reading that from a distro-developer. Basically this
38 > entire thread is "systemd is deprecating the existing tools, so let's dump
39 > them and half our userbase back to the 90s, isn't that a great thing?"
40
41 Then you misunderstood. Notice the ":P" as an indicator of sarcasm.
42 I've already created sys-power/upower-pm-utils where the sys-power/pm-utils
43 0.9 git branch will continue to live.

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