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On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 21:25 -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: |
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> On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 00:30 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: |
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> > In my eyes it was a policy issue. Tree-wide policies have to pass the |
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> > council in one form or the other. So why shouldn't Council care here? |
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> My argument is not that Council should not care. My question is: what's |
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> the big urgency to rush a half-baked policy through? |
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Except that nobody did that. Read what was done. What was done was a |
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*temporary* block on something that needed further discussion was put in |
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place. Nobody held any emergency meeting. A subset of the Council just |
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used some common sense and said something like "hey, maybe we should |
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block this until there is proper discussion and a proper solution is |
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found" which makes complete sense to me. I wasn't even involved in the |
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situation and I can see how this happened. As I said, anyone who cannot |
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see just how simple of a thing this was is either blind or specifically |
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looking for something to complain about. |
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> > I just wonder why several people feel attacked by this decission while |
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> > the affected parties have no problem with it. |
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> I hope you don't mean me here, because I haven't felt attacked at all. |
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> My concern isn't a personal one. Rather, it's a question that nobody |
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> from the council has actually answered: what was the big hurry to make a |
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> decision _NOW_ without even thinking through the migration path, or for |
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> that matter without even knowing what is the actual correct way. It's |
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> fine to say that _rc_alpha_beta_p is wrong (and I happen to agree). |
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> It's another to not say what is actually right. Furthermore, if only 3 |
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> packages did the wrong thing where was the emergency? |
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There was no emergency. Nobody from the Council has ever said it was an |
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emergency. I think you were the one that stated that it was. Also, |
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realize that the decision wasn't a solution to the problem. Again, |
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nobody said that it was. The only problem that I see is that we didn't |
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act soon enough. As soon as there was some conflict on how to allow the |
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multiple version suffixes, somebody should have stopped any packages |
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form using them in the tree until a solution was decided. |
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> I'm not trying to make you defensive, I just really would like an answer |
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> to my question, that is all. |
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I've answered it to the best of my ability and it is hard to not get |
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defensive when every decision your group makes is attacked on multiple |
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fronts by people that put you in the position to make those exact same |
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decisions. It really has made me wonder what the point in being on the |
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Council is if we can't do anything without being assaulted on all sides. |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Release Engineering Strategic Lead |
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Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams |
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Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee |
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Gentoo Foundation |
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