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On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 04:39, Karl Trygve Kalleberg wrote: |
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> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 06:18:58PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: |
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> > I'm just curious, but wouldn't this only possibly affect the *-bin |
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> > ebuilds for mozilla/firefox/thunderbird? If so, is it even really an |
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> > issue, since we provide the original binary distribution from mozilla? |
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> Yes, it only affects binary redistributions of mozilla stuff, and yes, our |
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> *-bins are safe, since they're unmodified. |
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> > I know that we would need to look into this for GRP, but for the regular |
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> > distribution, it seems to be a moot point. Am I just wrong here? Can |
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> > we simply start providing mozilla-bin in GRP rather than mozilla? |
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> The GRP includes our binary redistribution of the mozilla stuff, and is |
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> modified (if only with arch-specific patches), so it requires a stamp |
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> of approval. |
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I think I was saying that we could instead provide the *-bins in GRP, |
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rather than our patched up ones, but then I realized that we might not |
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have nearly as many *-bins available as we have supported arches, so I |
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can see the problem here already. |
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> However, one of the main selling points (or "giving away points") of Gentoo |
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> is that you can use it, for instance in combination with catalyst, to build |
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> your very own binary distro. |
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> Looking strictly at the mozilla licensing scheme, it means *every* user of |
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> catalyst that builds a mozilla project with trademarked logos needs to |
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> obtain their own stamp of approval before redistributing their binaries. |
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> This hampers easy deployment of a catalysted Gentoo on any organisation; |
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> people are not even allowed to build livecds that they copy to their |
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> neighbour, strictly speaking. |
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> One very appealing alternative is making our own artwork, and renaming the |
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> package to direfox or something (or firef*x, but * is very problematic in |
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> filenames), to avoid this nuisance. |
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> Another, would be for the mozilla organisation to have a completely |
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> open-sourced version, in addition to their own restricted version. |
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...or simply allowing redistribution of their artwork provided it is |
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distributed with their packages would meet the need, I think. I would |
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love to see a non-restricted set of mozilla packages, though. |
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Unfortunately, this is starting to become a very unwelcome trend in the |
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open source world with some very large and important packages. No good |
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can come from this. ;] |
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-- |
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Chris Gianelloni |
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Developer, Gentoo Linux |
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Games Team |
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Is your power animal a pengiun? |